No testosterone cycle here!

[PO OFFICER]

CYCLE
Weeks 1-10 50mg Provimed Every Day
Weeks 1-10 400mg Eq Per Week
Weeks 5-10 Winstrol 50mg Every Day

PCT
Week 11 40mg Tamoximed/100mg Clomid Every Day
Week 12 30mg Tamoximed/50mg Clomid Every Day
Week 13 20mg Tamoximed/50mg Clomid Every Day

Some may ask, "why bother without test?" Well, some side effects won't exist anymore!
Side effects such as:
No water retention.
Your sex drive will not diminish like other testosterone cycles.
No gyno

It's a pretty solid cycle, I used something very similar to this before and man, I loved it.

rules before you post...
1. Please don't say something that is just completely rude.
2. If you disagree, that's fine! Just give a reason why.

Enjoy

[Gaspari1255]

If it works for you, then party on. I think the EQ dose is kind of low but thats my .02

[Hamma Head]

What is provimed? It sounds like an interesting cycle, I know with deca you need test to avoid deca dick and I understand that you dont need it with eq. Keep us posted on how it goes.

[Gaspari1255]

What is provimed? It sounds like an interesting cycle, I know with deca you need test to avoid deca dick and I understand that you dont need it with eq. Keep us posted on how it goes.

Proviron ..I think

[2jz_calgary]

proviron

[charlesriley]

you sure will avoid the sides but taking a test as a base is taken not only for its effects on your muscles but your endocrine system as well, your gonna phuck up your endocrine system up for life and end up on TRT. all of those are DHT based as well, your hair is gonna fall out and your prostrate is gonna expand...but hey if you wanna do it and not injext at LEAST 150 test a week (still will aviod sides but not phuck you up) then go for it, tell us how that goes.

[TITANIUM]

That's not a good cycle, unless you are on trt all ready.

Test is used as a base for alot of reasons.

Least of them I would worry about is limp dick.

The test will help the other compounds do there jobs also.

Can't leave something out that is supposed to be there.

Syn or natty.

I don't like the cycle bro.

Best

T

[PO OFFICER]

That's not a good cycle, unless you are on trt all ready.

Test is used as a base for alot of reasons.

Least of them I would worry about is limp dick.

The test will help the other compounds do there jobs also.

Can't leave something out that is supposed to be there.

Syn or natty.

I don't like the cycle bro.

Best

T

This is mainly for guys who are prone to gyno, tired of loosing their sex drive, and don't like water retention. I used it along time ago and got some pretty considerable gains from it. So people can say "I wouldn't gain sh!t from that" That's fine, think what you want.

[RANA]

That's not a good cycle, unless you are on trt all ready.

Test is used as a base for alot of reasons.

Least of them I would worry about is limp dick.

The test will help the other compounds do there jobs also.

Can't leave something out that is supposed to be there.

Syn or natty.

I don't like the cycle bro.

Best

T

I agree^^^

This is mainly for guys who are prone to gyno, tired of loosing their sex drive, and don't like water retention. I used it along time ago and got some pretty considerable gains from it. So people can say "I wouldn't gain sh!t from that" That's fine, think what you want.

I have not heard about losing your sex drive on test, run test prop if you don't want water retention, watch your salt intake and hydrate. I haven't seen anyone say "I wouldn't gain sh!t from that" so if you can state who said that please show us

[charlesriley]

how many times can a person do a drug or drink alcholo before thier liver is messed up or brain is fried???? the same goes for your endocrine system,,,,dont say nobody tried to tell you....hormones dont take as long as the stuff i mentioned above to mess you up reeeel bad. do your research as to why test is a base, take nolva if you are gyno prone, seriously you need to take a step back and do research on test as a base and why from a scientific view not a athletes view

[TITANIUM]

This is mainly for guys who are prone to gyno, tired of loosing their sex drive, and don't like water retention. I used it along time ago and got some pretty considerable gains from it. So people can say "I wouldn't gain sh!t from that" That's fine, think what you want.

I never said you wouldn't make gains.

I said I didn't think the cycle was a good one.

There is a difference, and I pointed out why.

Best

T

[ranging1]

i REALLY think u should run test

u dont need to run a large dosage, but just enough to make sure ur sex drive stays in check IMO

u dont know whether or not u will keep ur sex drive and erections on this cycle, theirs a REALLY good chance ull loose it since these steroids will suppress ur HPTA eventually

why not just play on the safe side and inject 200-250mg of testerone a week just to keep ur sex drive in check and make sure u dont face any problems

the last thing u want is your sex drive to crash and have erection problems, its just a nice feeling keeping ur sex drive,

makes u a man lol

^^^with 200-250mg of test i dont think ud need to worry about side effects or water retention considering a dosage like that is just above the normal HRT dosage

[marcus300]

You dont lose your sex drive on test cycles, its increases and if you think running a non test cycle will not give you sex drive problems you mistaken, its the oppersite.

This thread is misleading IMHO.

[Hard.On]

You dont lose your sex drive on test cycles, its increases and if you think running a non test cycle will not give you sex drive problems you mistaken, its the oppersite.

This thread is misleading IMHO.

Agreed, you will have a hard on all day

[peachfuzz]

is this before or after a 10mg anavar bridge?

are these the type of cycles you run for your competitions?

[chuckt12345]

you sure will avoid the sides but taking a test as a base is taken not only for its effects on your muscles but your endocrine system as well, your gonna phuck up your endocrine system up for life and end up on TRT. all of those are DHT based as well, your hair is gonna fall out and your prostrate is gonna expand...but hey if you wanna do it and not injext at LEAST 150 test a week (still will aviod sides but not phuck you up) then go for it, tell us how that goes.

lol,, so you think injecting aftificial test keeps the hormonal system from getting screwed up? God i love this bored.

[RANA]

Something you might want to read PO OFFICER So when does Testosterone really "kick in"?
Still trying to figure out where you are getting you info?

[TITANIUM]

The wheels on the bus go round and round!LOL

I know, I could not help myself.

Comic relief to the rescue!!!

Best

T

[chuckt12345]

You may or may not have test related problems on EQ only cycle. Your chances are higher but noone needs to be saying he absolutely will. Having a lower sex drive may be less of a side effect to that person than the sides someone exp with test. Keep up with this thread,, he got like a month start on you.
EQ only - first cycle - 22 yrs old

[TITANIUM]

You may or may not have test related problems on EQ only cycle. Your chances are higher but noone needs to be saying he absolutely will. Having a lower sex drive may be less of a side effect to that person than the sides someone exp with test. Keep up with this thread,, he got like a month start on you.
EQ only - first cycle - 22 yrs old

Interesting experiment.

I guess we will see if there are any long term ramifications.

I would not do that cycle, but to each there own.

I just don't want the newbs thinking this is the new "OK Cycle".

That is my first concern.

Best

T

[chuckt12345]

Interesting experiment.

I guess we will see if there are any long term ramifications.

I would not do that cycle, but to each there own.

I just don't want the newbs thinking this is the new "OK Cycle".

That is my first concern.

Best

T

^ right on,, i def dont recommend it either but i dont think its horrible

[charlesriley]

lol,, so you think injecting aftificial test keeps the hormonal system from getting screwed up? God i love this bored.

no but the endocrine system wont be disproportianate as much as the cycle this guy is talkin bout, it has way hiher levels than normal but ratios stay good minus of course excess estrogen hopefully with a test base, running a dht only cycle is like driving a four wheel car on the two right sides tires like james bond lol, its dangerous and out of proportion for the endocrine system, and pct is less responsive from threads and experiences i have read

.. imho

[gymnerd]

Well I would rather run test with an AI you wont get gyno. Or keep the diet on point and use the winni at the end to help dry you out.

There are just sooo many better options IMO.

[Nobuddy]

you sure will avoid the sides but taking a test as a base is taken not only for its effects on your muscles but your endocrine system as well, your gonna phuck up your endocrine system up for life and end up on TRT. all of those are DHT based as well, your hair is gonna fall out and your prostrate is gonna expand...but hey if you wanna do it and not injext at LEAST 150 test a week (still will aviod sides but not phuck you up) then go for it, tell us how that goes.

i have a friend who swears by this method. i never knew it, until recently, but he does NOT like test and says he only takes the bare minimum to avoid being all the way out of it. he looks like a million bux, so it's gone good for him.

i'm still confused about the OP saying he wants to avoid test as to not lose his sex drive. just the opposite for me - test makes me a scrump machine i'm in my mid thirties and, when i'm on 500mg/week, i'll do it as much as 4 times a day.

[wharton]

CYCLE
Weeks 1-10 50mg Provimed Every Day
Weeks 1-10 400mg Eq Per Week
Weeks 5-10 Winstrol 50mg Every Day

PCT
Week 11 40mg Tamoximed/100mg Clomid Every Day
Week 12 30mg Tamoximed/50mg Clomid Every Day
Week 13 20mg Tamoximed/50mg Clomid Every Day

Some may ask, "why bother without test?" Well, some side effects won't exist anymore!
Side effects such as:
No water retention.
Your sex drive will not diminish like other testosterone cycles.
No gyno

It's a pretty solid cycle, I used something very similar to this before and man, I loved it.

rules before you post...
1. Please don't say something that is just completely rude.
2. If you disagree, that's fine! Just give a reason why.

Enjoy

Well you greatly mistaken here. Winstol As with 99% of steroids , A suppression of your natural hormonal levels will occur. so it will effect your test production which could lead to sexual dysfunction.

Also if your running proviron you might as well run test to take advantage of proviron and testosterone synergy, you´ll have more of the test you shoot as free testosterone floating around building muscle(proviron), more androgen receptors to be bound to by your Proviron(test), thus causing more fat loss.

EQ dose is too low and isn't gonna be run long enough so either run it 12wks or more at a higher dose or just drop it all together.

[testiman]

man, a little off subject, but id sure like to know who that lady is in your avatar...DAMN!

( dont mind me, im just a (dirty) old man...lol)