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    Exclamation Low libido... HELP!

    I have been running Winstrol injecting ED 50mg for about 4 weeks now, Test cypionate 200mg every four days, Nolvadex tabs 25 mg a day, and Proviron 50 mg per day... Just this past week my libido has kinda dropped... It takes me a little longer to get a hard on and when I do it isnt what it normally is... Could this be from running the winstrol? What do I do to help out the situation? Should i maybe up the Test cypionate dose to 500 mg every week instead of 400?? Please help... Also for pct im goign to run Nolva thru out and Clomid 300mg day one, and 50 mg a day for two weeks after. Is this sufficient or should I get some HCG ?

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    why are you running nolvadex @ 25mg ED on cycle? that's REALLY high.

    If you're just using the nolva for gyno prevention then I would drop the dosage down to 10mg ED while on cycle.

    If you want an immediate libido boost then just bump up the proviron dosage. I find 100mg is my sweet spot, and made me horny as hell. lol.

    You do not need to bump up the test dosage.

    I would get some HCG , it's good protocol to use it on EVERY cycle. When you get the HCG run it at 250iu every 3rd day leading up all the way to PCT (discontinue once you begin nolva/clomid regiment)

    Your clomid therapy protocol is WAY overboard. 300mg is really high. stick to this 100/50/50/25. (weekly values in mg)

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    yA UP your proviron that should do the trick.

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    Im kind of thinking that my Proviron is bullshit... they sent it to me in capsules instead of the tablets... But i dunno.. Ill try to up the dosage... So i should be running the HCG during my cycle? And I will drop the nolvadex dose too. And for my pct should i start 2 weeks after my last injection? I keep getting different feedback on this... Some say a couple days, and some say weeks....

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    Should i take 50 mg of my proviron in the morning and then 50 at night? Or four thru out the day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cever98869 View Post
    Im kind of thinking that my Proviron is bullshit... they sent it to me in capsules instead of the tablets... But i dunno.. Ill try to up the dosage... So i should be running the HCG during my cycle? And I will drop the nolvadex dose too. And for my pct should i start 2 weeks after my last injection? I keep getting different feedback on this... Some say a couple days, and some say weeks....
    Yes you should be running HCG through the cycle.

    PCT would start 18 days after last injection of cyp. This is because you want all the suppressive compounds in your body to be totally cleared when you start your PCT.

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    Should i take 50 mg of my proviron in the morning and then 50 at night? Or four thru out the day?
    I like to split my dosage up. 50mg morning. 50mg before bed.

    You could always order yourself some viagra/cialis until you finish the cycle. It's a quick temporary fix (and doesn't cause future ED or anything like that, so don't fret lol)

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    Ok cool! Its probably a little late to be trying to get some HCG before my cycle is up tho... Im running 10 weeks and im almost at the half way point.. The HCG probably wont even be here until the last couple of weeks... You think i will be ok not running the HCG? I should just incorporate it next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cever98869 View Post
    Ok cool! Its probably a little late to be trying to get some HCG before my cycle is up tho... Im running 10 weeks and im almost at the half way point.. The HCG probably wont even be here until the last couple of weeks... You think i will be ok not running the HCG? I should just incorporate it next time.
    if you're 5 weeks in then order it immediately, and when you get it run it.

    (IE) if you get it on the 9th week run it @ 250iu (weeks 9 - 12.5) and then discontinue the HCG right before the PCT.

    This is fine to do. A lot of people like using the HCG protocol in the latter half of their cycle to help return their testes back to normal size... but I personally advocate use of HCG from the beginning. Whatever though, different strokes for different folks. Either works.

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    Bro I would drop the nolva all together. You may have high estr which can give you issues sexually. I would get on some aromasin at 10mg ed and see if things improve. Nolva will not decrease estro.

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    Also, have you ever hear of proviron coming in capsules?? I dont know if I'm allowed to say a site name on here but oh well... I got it from BR along with some winstrol from them... The winstrol makes me hurt like HELL!! Does anyone know anything about them?
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    And hcg is a good idea. You will def need an ai with hcg.

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    Edit your post of that lab name!!

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    Wont the proviron do the same as the Aromasin ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cever98869 View Post
    Wont the proviron do the same as the Aromasin?
    Nah, proviron is mild-"anti E".... (many don't even consider it effective at lowering estrogen).

    I don't know about that lab name BTW. but yes proviron came come in capsules. doesn't have to pressed pills.

    If you've got an AI like arimidex or armos on hand then I would definitely use it. But I was just assuming you only had nolvadex . if you've only got nolva then do as I previously suggested and reduce dosage to 10mg ED.

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    I just have the Nolvadex ... Know anything about liquid AI's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cever98869 View Post
    the winstrol makes me hurt like HELL!! Does anyone know anything about them?
    That's because injectable winstrol hurts EVERYONE. It's awful.

    Water based. ouch.

    I made the mistake of using it once, just stick to oral winstrol in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cever98869 View Post
    I just have the Nolvadex... Know anything about liquid AI's?
    yup. you can order them from the AR-R .com

    they aren't the greatest IMO, but they do work. and are effective in lowering estrogen.

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    yeah i will next time for sure... The water based kills me! Hurts so bad that i cant even sleep on the side i injected for the day....

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    What is the best liquid AI? Just curious...

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    No. Not to the extent aromasin will. Proviron is a dht compound that does have a high affinity for binding to the aromatase enzyme to help prevent test converting into estro but its anti estro capabilities are not nearly as strong as aromasin. Proviro is great for enhancing the effects of test and other compounds but, in my opinion should not be utilized to control estro. There are far superior compounds for that.

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    Can I run 100 mg of winstrol EOD effectively instead of 50mg ED?

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    man you are way over thinkn this cycle. Your sex drive is in the shitter prb because of all this extra crap your using.

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