deca advise for a Beginner

**Muffinmanct187** · 12-03-2009, 09:36 AM

alright here is the deal i got 10ml of dec never taken steroids before always been natural want to get bigger im
21
5'5
very low body fat
i weigh 150,

i had a few questions. can you take deca alone? ive read alot about people taking it with other stuff i wanted to run it alone duno if thats feasable, was looking to start at 300mg a week, and do a 4 week cycle then follow it with reversitol (Hormonal Regulator) as a PCT, My goal is to put on some quality size

like i said never taken anything like this before so wanted to ask before i jump into it
Thanks

**G4R** · 12-03-2009, 09:54 AM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=367187

**Bossman** · 12-03-2009, 09:54 AM

Start by reading the stickies at the top of the forum page. There is a lot to learn before you can responsibly start AAS use. Too much to post in this thread.

Too quickly answer your question though, Deca alone is a very bad cycle. You may very likely experience deca-dick (can't get it up) and will have a complete shut down of your natural test production.

You're on the right track posting on here, but read a lot more first.

**redz** · 12-03-2009, 09:55 AM

Oh boy......4 weeks of deca will do nothing other than shut you down and kill your labido.

**Big** · 12-03-2009, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by redz

Oh boy......4 weeks of deca will do nothing other than shut you down and kill your labido.

yep, someone would likely lose mass by the time it was all over.

**Muffinmanct187** · 12-03-2009, 11:05 AM

what do people normall take decca with cause im not too sure, also whats the length of a cycle for most people (1 month)

**baseline_9** · 12-03-2009, 11:09 AM

10-12 weeks, just run test for ur first cycle, 250 -500mg PW, clomid nolva PCT

Your only 150lbs, you probably can make more natural gains tho.

**chuckt12345** · 12-03-2009, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Muffinmanct187

what do people normall take decca with cause im not too sure, also whats the length of a cycle for most people (1 month)

start reading the IMPORTANT tabs in red in the top of the forum. Theres alot you need to know before you even ask any questions

**Muffinmanct187** · 12-03-2009, 11:20 AM

yea ill read more of the important threads there is just alot of stuff i still dont understand thats y i was hesitant to take it to begin with but i already bought it so im kinda at a crossroads

**PistolStarta** · 12-03-2009, 11:24 AM

Dont be at a crossroads at all, you dont have enough, your very young, you have no PCT laid out. All your gonna do is get nothing and hurt yourself.

**Muffinmanct187** · 12-03-2009, 12:54 PM

im just not understanding completely so u cant take deca alone u have to take deca after uve done a cycle of test??? and as far pct goes im leaning toward Clomid a buddy of mine suggested it, if thats the case hows testosterone enanthate ?
one of my main things is when to take what for bulking

**PistolStarta** · 12-03-2009, 01:08 PM

No, you havent researched this at all, clomid requires nolva for PCT and test must be run with deca , unless you enjoy a flacid dick.

**Muffinmanct187** · 12-03-2009, 04:42 PM

so then would u run Testosterone Enanthate 300 with deca and use same like 300mg a week? then after 4-6 weeks nolva and clomid?

**Big** · 12-03-2009, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Muffinmanct187

so then would u run Testosterone Enanthate 300 with deca and use same like 300mg a week? then after 4-6 weeks nolva and clomid?

nope. long esters for 4 to 6 weeks? really, take some time to read the educational threads, all these questions have already been answered.

**Muffinmanct187** · 12-04-2009, 06:49 AM

what stickys should i read?

**Muffinmanct187** · 12-04-2009, 06:50 AM

cause im taking it eaither way i already bought it and am screwed

**ottomaddox** · 12-04-2009, 07:38 AM

Then you better take stock in Viagra, cause your going to need it. There are so many problems with your deca only 4 week cycle, I don't even know where to begin.

Originally Posted by marcus300

In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

Originally Posted by Muffinmanct187

cause im taking it eaither way i already bought it and am screwed

**yungone501** · 12-04-2009, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Muffinmanct187

cause im taking it eaither way i already bought it and am screwed

Listen bro, I disregarded everyone's advise just like you and did Deca my first cycle (although I did include Test) and Im telling you man, YOU WILL REGRET THIS. Please listen to everyone's advise on here, they're trying to help you out. If you've started, stop and commence PCT. You'll be alot happier you waited. Good luck.

**Muffinmanct187** · 12-04-2009, 10:30 AM

yea im gona wait

**yungone501** · 12-04-2009, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Muffinmanct187

yea im gona wait

Excellent choice.

**redz** · 12-04-2009, 10:52 AM

Good call to wait, you will be way better off if you learn as much as you can before starting so you know what will work and be ready for any possible sides.

**Muffinmanct187** · 12-04-2009, 01:30 PM

yea thanks really appreciate the advice guys im thinking just stay clean and possible do a cycle of superdrol or h4

**yungone501** · 12-04-2009, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Muffinmanct187

yea thanks really appreciate the advice guys im thinking just stay clean and possible do a cycle of superdrol or h4

Sh*t dude, you way 150lbs. Eat first. Why do you keep resorting to hormones to get big. It all starts with your diet. Please, go to the diet section and post an example of your diet including macros and we will assist you. Not tryin' to burn ya man but you need to take your mind of that sh*t for now. You have plenty of help, please use it.

**Alex Rodriguez** · 12-04-2009, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Muffinmanct187

alright here is the deal i got 10ml of dec never taken steroids before always been natural want to get bigger im
21
5'5
very low body fat
i weigh 150,

i had a few questions. can you take deca alone? ive read alot about people taking it with other stuff i wanted to run it alone duno if thats feasable, was looking to start at 300mg a week, and do a 4 week cycle then follow it with reversitol (Hormonal Regulator) as a PCT, My goal is to put on some quality size

like i said never taken anything like this before so wanted to ask before i jump into it
Thanks

heres to start of whats wrong with a deca cycle let alone a 4 week

ur dick for most people will stop working
it takes 4-6 for deca to take full effect prolly

300mg is a low dose

u wont gain nothing except a dead dick for a few weeks a waste of ur time