help

**adz09** · 12-03-2009, 10:49 AM

hi ive been training 4 a couple years now and 2 weeks ago i stared my first cycle , according 2 the guy in the gym the cylce he put me was the right one 4 me...?
250mg sus, 200mg deca per week, 20mg a day of dianobol and 20mg anti estrogen (tamoxyfen) i was just wondering if any 1 thinks this was ok and when should i expect 2 see any gains?

**Mooseman33** · 12-03-2009, 10:51 AM

let me guess, he is also the guy who sold it to u?

do u know what PCT is?

hell, what are ur stats man?

**Big** · 12-03-2009, 10:53 AM

not the first cycle we would recommend.
age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
planned pct?

**adz09** · 12-03-2009, 10:53 AM

im new 2 all this man lol no i dnt no what pct is ?
also what do u mean by stats really sorry could u explain?

**Big** · 12-03-2009, 10:54 AM

review my post and provide us that info. pct is "post cycle therapy ", you never want to cycle without that.

**adz09** · 12-03-2009, 10:56 AM

5.8
11 stone
dont no how much fat is on me but i cant see any im very a athletic

**Big** · 12-03-2009, 11:01 AM

age?

**adz09** · 12-03-2009, 11:03 AM

im 25

**adz09** · 12-03-2009, 11:09 AM

[QUOTE=Mooseman33;4971514]let me guess, he is also the guy who sold it to u?

do u know what PCT is?

hell, what are ur stats man?[/

the guy who sold it 2 me owns the gym and sales it 2 quite a lot people in there so i would like 2 think i can trust him

**Big** · 12-03-2009, 11:19 AM

[QUOTE=adz09;4971541]

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

let me guess, he is also the guy who sold it to u?

do u know what PCT is?

hell, what are ur stats man?[/

the guy who sold it 2 me owns the gym and sales it 2 quite a lot people in there so i would like 2 think i can trust him

you would be wrong. if he told you the truth, that your diet sucks and you should fix that first, he wouldn't make any money off selling you drugs you don't need. if he set you up with a proper pct, you might not lose all your gains right after the cycle, and he wouldn't make more money selling you more steroids .

**Mooseman33** · 12-03-2009, 11:24 AM

[QUOTE=Big;4971557]

Originally Posted by adz09

you would be wrong. if he told you the truth, that your diet sucks and you should fix that first, he wouldn't make any money off selling you drugs you don't need. if he set you up with a proper pct, you might not lose all your gains right after the cycle, and he wouldn't make more money selling you more steroids.

man u always nail it right on the head.
agree 1000 percent.

**adz09** · 12-03-2009, 11:45 AM

what if my diet doesn't (suck) im actually eating well throught out the day and drink shakes 3-4 times a day also training 5 days a week ive put on a few pounds, all i wanted 2 no if what i was doing seemed right 2 others im open 2 comments but also want some advice plz...

**Big** · 12-03-2009, 11:52 AM

ok for starters, list your daily diet, in detail.
no, what you're doing isn't right. that's not a good first cycle, you don't have a natural base, you have no pct, you will likely hurt yourself if you continue on the path you're on.