My First Cycle

[Mystik123]

STATS:

Age: 20
Height: 6'0
Weight: 85kg/187pounds
Bodyfat %: Around 15-18%
Training: For around 3-4 years, the past year very seriously.
Goal: This cycle is for winter next year - I'm aiming at around 95-100kg, with my bf % around 18-20%.


Weeks 1-15
Sustanon 250 @ 500mg/week

Weeks 1-4
Either Dbol/Anapolon50/ kickstart @ 40mg/day or 100mg/day

PCT
To be commenced 18 days after my last injection

Day 1-7 40mg Nolvadex/100mg Clomid
Day 8-14 20mg Nolvadex/50mg Clomid
Day 15-21 10mg Nolvadex/50mg Clomid

Diet
8:30 A.M - BREAKFAST - Cup of oats, 4 large scrambled eggs - possible protein shake?
10:30 A.M - SNACK - 40g Protein shake w/water
12:30 P.M - LUNCH - One large chicken breast w/either pasta, 2 jacket potatoes, small salad.
2:30 P.M - SNACK - One or two chicken legs w/either a small salad, two pieces of wholemeal bread.
4:30 P.M - SMALL SNACK - Small meal prior to training - either a protein bar, almonds/nuts etc.
5:30 P.M - TRAINING - until 6:30 P.M
6:30 P.M - POST WORKOUT - protein shake consisting of 40grams of protein and 20grams of waximaize.
8:00 P.M - DINNER - One large chicken breast w/either pasta, 2 jacket potatoes, small salad.
10:00 P.M - SNACK - Small serve of cottage cheese, almonds/nuts etc.
10:30 P.M - BED TIME.

Main meal will be varied with steaks, fish, chicken etc - all servings will be large and aiming at around 60-80grams of protein in each larger

I have Arimidex on hand for any signs of Gyno, all products are legitimate from pharmacies and are in abundance whenever needed.

Don't try to deter me from this cycle regarding my age, it won't work - I've got my eyes and heart set on it and thats that.

Please give me any suggestions, helpful hints, the pro's/con's of the cycle and the PCT.

Thanks alot,

[Mystik123]

Considering also adding Insulin to my cycle - most likely 4iu 15 minutes prior to my Lunch, and 15 minutes prior to dinner to begin with.

[marcus300]

In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

[Okinawa_Power]

Do you have any experience with slin? You are going to divide the 4iu correct?

[Mystik123]

No prior experience with the slin - I'll be using Novorapid in the pen form, 1x 4iu injection 15 minutes prior to lunch, 1x 4iu injection 15 minutes prior to dinner.

[marcus300]

I doubt anyone will advice a 20yr old to use steroids, doesnt matter if you going to do it anyway, there isnt a right way to do it at your age, you can cause serious damage to yourself what will effect the rest of your life!

The only people who are going to advice you are the younger guys who are doing it right now and who dont give a flying fuk, but trust me you will wish you never went down this route, listen to the older guys who have been there and done it, at your age you have enough to make gains, if you aren't your doing something wrong/

am out of here because this thread is dead.

[Mystik123]

I don't planning on living past 40 anyway, so thanks for your concern Marcus but it is irellevant as I've already stated - I'm going to do it regardless.

[ottomaddox]

Nice attitude, it will get you far on this board. Grow up! Don't want to live past forty, then you're going at it all wrong. Why wait, you should start tomorrow, better yet today. Have fun and enjoy the minutes.........

[Mystik123]

How is there something wrong with my attitude?

I clearly appreciate all input within this thread, however I stated - REGARDLESS of whatever anybody says, I will be going ahead with it - so why post negative facts regarding my age etc?

Has me bemused.

[gunslinger2]

I doubt anyone will advice a 20yr old to use steroids, doesnt matter if you going to do it anyway, there isnt a right way to do it at your age, you can cause serious damage to yourself what will effect the rest of your life!

The only people who are going to advice you are the younger guys who are doing it right now and who dont give a flying fuk, but trust me you will wish you never went down this route, listen to the older guys who have been there and done it, at your age you have enough to make gains, if you aren't your doing something wrong/

am out of here because this thread is dead.

Agreed 100%

I don't planning on living past 40 anyway, so thanks for your concern Marcus but it is irellevant as I've already stated - I'm going to do it regardless.

Is there any way we can get dumb ass people like this off the board, it makes us all look bad.

[stevey_6t9]

ok mystik u go ahed with ur cycle, even tho ur stats are shit, so is ur diet and ur proposed cycle. and insulin dude? mate goodluck

[marcus300]

How is there something wrong with my attitude?

I clearly appreciate all input within this thread, however I stated - REGARDLESS of whatever anybody says, I will be going ahead with it - so why post negative facts regarding my age etc?

Has me bemused.

Before this thread gets closed let me try and explain something to you,

You need to change your attitude,
no one here is going to give you advice how to run AAS and slin for a first timer at the age of 20yrs who doesnt want to live past 40yr old. That alone tells me alot about how stable you really are, do not take steroids.

Now no matter if your going to do it or not, its pointless you being here because no one except someone like yourself is going to advice you the correct way how to cycle, because the fact is there isnt a correct way to cycle for someone with your stats and diet...

so this thread is pointless, so i would go to another site what will tell you what you want to hear and not what is right....

[eurok20]

yea i knw what u meen man im 21 nd wana do a cycle but everyone tells me to wait till im older

[Alex Rodriguez]

In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

i dont think theres any proof of that perma damaging ur hpta