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12-04-2009, 10:43 PM #1New Member
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Short 2nd cycle, help please
Hey guys, I am looking at doing my second cycle in the near future but would like some of that specialist advice that is out there...
I am 27 years old, 195 lbs and about 12% BF. My first cycle was a 12 week Test E/Deca cycle with only Nolva for PCT. Put on about 20 lbs and kept about 12 lbs.
My main issue from my first cycle was the body acne - Shoulders and upper arms. It stayed around for a long time and I tried everything other than Accutane. I didn't suffer from acne prior to this cycle or as a teenager...
I finished my cycle about a year ago and I am ready for my second cycle. I am looking at doing a short cycle (about 4 weeks) for a couple of reasons - travel overseas with work often and I am trying to minimize the side effects before they get a chance to fully suppress natty test thus reduce chances of acne taking hold again.
I am looking at something like this:
Wk 1-4: Test P (short ester) 125mg EOD
Wk 1-4: D'bol 40mg ED
WK 1-4: Armidex 0.5 mg ED
Wk 5-8: Nolva 40/40/20/20 ED
Wk 5-10:Accutane 40mg ED
Wk 5-10: Aromasin 10mg ED
I realise I won't make huge gains such as a 12 week cycle but please let me know what you think....
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12-05-2009, 12:16 AM #2
waist of time and money, four weeks, NO GO
sorry bro but no way.....
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12-05-2009, 12:32 AM #3
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12-05-2009, 04:30 PM #4New Member
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Thanks, What would be the min time you think is 'worth it'??
Keeping in mind I want to suppress the acne as much as poss...
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12-05-2009, 05:15 PM #5
Short cycles are frequently used but usually higher doses. 4 weeks is kinda short with those doses. Extend the test to 6 weeks and cut the Dbol out at the end of the 4th week. You'll make some gains, I know I would. You should be feeling that before the end of the first week.
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12-05-2009, 05:36 PM #6New Member
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yeah thats one of the lightest cycles i've seen...but i think the main problem w/ it is throwing in the accutane in addition to d-bol both of which will put a lot of strain on ur liver, because that is more toxic than oral aas....if you go w/ this cycle make sure you follow liver enzymes(alt ast etc)
my suggestion:
delay the cycle for now, go on accutane as a prophylactic measure- the sebaceous glands will shrink and once you go on aas your chances of developing acne will be a lot lower-the reason its better to take it beforehand(if u re prone to acne vulgaris which i;m assuming u are)is you can avoid the scarring that could occur. u indicated that u didnt develop acne during adolescence yet i still think that u might be genetically disposed to acne due to androgen and corticosteroid levels in the upper range of normal values....
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12-06-2009, 12:27 AM #7New Member
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Awesome info, your thoughts and comments are much appreciated.
I will look to go on accutane as a preventative measure and delay the cycle as suggested.
I am often out of the country with work etc so may have to find an 6+ week period where I will be home to get in a full cycle.
Thanks
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12-06-2009, 01:22 AM #9Associate Member
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Definitely a waste of time, money, and most of all shutting yourself down for more than likely no net gains .....
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12-07-2009, 03:07 AM #10New Member
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Thanks guys, much appreciated
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