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    Questions for 2nd cycle test/deca

    Ok im going to try one more time, i dont know if im posting wrong or what but i didnt get any responces for my last one with the question i had. So here we go again. I appriciatate any help.

    Im 29yo
    5-9
    180
    13% bf
    one cycle of gear before test400/deca300
    one cycle of PH E-stane/X-trene
    Training 3 years, Diet in check for one year though


    Im running
    1-14 wks 500mg test e (250mg every 3.5 days)
    1-12 wks 300-400 deca (150-200mg every 3.5 days combined with test)

    PCT
    16-20wks
    Nolva 40/20/20/20
    Clomid 100/50/50/50
    Clen 20/30/40/50/60....ed until i reach the peak i feel comfortable at. This 2wks on 2wks off


    Questions are:

    1. Its a 300mg vial of deca, since i ran deca at 300mg the first time, how do i measure 400mg out? Remeber im spliting does so i need 200mg in each pin.

    2. Im currently on pct for the PH cycle, would it be ok to bridge this into this cycle of test/deca? Only reason is i would really like my first pin to be on newyears. But i can wait if its not a good idea.

    3. I know what type of blood work to ask for, but what i cant find the answer to is how long before cycle and after cycle should i get this blood work done? A week? A day?

    I think i had another question but i forget it right now. I hope someone can help me and i hope i provided enough info to get the right advice here.

    Thankyou!

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    It looks like you got your dosing questions answered in your other thread: 2nd real cycle question

    unless I'm missing something.

    Imo, PH are often just as suppressive as steroids . I don't care for your idea of bridging with a PH. Just do your pct and recover, then run your cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    It looks like you got your dosing questions answered in your other thread: 2nd real cycle question

    unless I'm missing something.

    Imo, PH are often just as suppressive as steroids. I don't care for your idea of bridging with a PH. Just do your pct and recover, then run your cycle.
    Yea i guess i did, 1.3 to get 400mg.....and i guess divide that in half for my pins.

    What about the blood work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goode80 View Post
    Ok im going to try one more time, i dont know if im posting wrong or what but i didnt get any responces for my last one with the question i had. So here we go again. I appriciatate any help.

    Im 29yo
    5-9
    180
    13% bf
    one cycle of gear before test400/deca300
    one cycle of PH E-stane/X-trene
    Training 3 years, Diet in check for one year though


    Im running
    1-14 wks 500mg test e (250mg every 3.5 days)
    1-12 wks 300-400 deca (150-200mg every 3.5 days combined with test)

    PCT
    16-20wks
    Nolva 40/20/20/20
    Clomid 100/50/50/50
    Clen 20/30/40/50/60....ed until i reach the peak i feel comfortable at. This 2wks on 2wks off


    Questions are:

    1. Its a 300mg vial of deca, since i ran deca at 300mg the first time, how do i measure 400mg out? Remeber im spliting does so i need 200mg in each pin.

    2. Im currently on pct for the PH cycle, would it be ok to bridge this into this cycle of test/deca? Only reason is i would really like my first pin to be on newyears. But i can wait if its not a good idea.

    3. I know what type of blood work to ask for, but what i cant find the answer to is how long before cycle and after cycle should i get this blood work done? A week? A day?

    I think i had another question but i forget it right now. I hope someone can help me and i hope i provided enough info to get the right advice here.

    Thankyou!
    you said youre running test/deca but you also said you are doing pct for PH cycle. do you mean you are doing pct for PH and WANT to run test/deca at the start of the year? need clarification.

    1. each vial is 300mg/ml?; if you pull the entire vial out in your syringe how many ml is it? say your vial turns out to be 2ml, thus your ratio is 150mg/ml, if you want to inject 400mg then you need to pull out another 0.7ml so you need 2.7ml which would then give you 400mg per pin. does that make sense?

    we need to know mg/ml, that will tell you how much liquid to draw.

    2. how long was your PH cycle? what is your pct? my recommendation is to take some time off and let the body settle down man. but then again i dont really understand bridging. unless you are getting ready for some type of comp that you need to stay on for take some time off and just train/eat for a few months and let the body settle back down.

    3. i would say pre-cycle after you have been off PH for a while, see what your body's natural levels are. then right after pct/4 weeks after pct. you will have a baseline and then what your body is doing after the cycle to see how far you are off and when you get back to baseline before you jump back on another cycle later in 2010.

    that help?

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    Definately does help!

    Deca is 300mg/ml....its a 10ml vial. I think i can figure it out, from what has been said.

    My ph cycle was 4 wks, pct is always the normal protocol....nlova/clomid....same as my proposed pct for this new cycle.

    Not in a comp or anything, just want to be in top shape for when i turn 30 in april thats all. It was one of my goals for my new dieting i have been on.

    I guess i will give my body a rest and not bridge. Just will be hard staring at the vials everytime i open my medcine cabneit to take my vitamins.

    Anyways thanks for the help man, hope i didnt come off rude or as an idiot.

    Any advice for my bloodwork question??

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    ALL you need to know about bloodwork

    read that one on bloodwork.

    Blood work Question

    aizen recommends, What you want is endocrine function, but also try to get at least a lipids panel hemo profile and liver values"

    Goin For Blood Work Tommorow

    peachfuzz recommends, "cbc, chem panel, estradiol, tsh, free and total test, shbg"

    that is all i got atm.

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    yeah i have read 2 out of the 3 post. The first one i never read before....very informative!!!

    Still not sure on timing though, but im going to go a week prior and post

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    how long was your current PH cycle with pct?

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    4 week cycle.....im in 2nd week of pct going to do 4 total

    so cycle and pct will be total of 8 weeks

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    running too many cycles back to back, or too many extended cycles can mess up stuff, hpta, endocrine.

    its really up to you but in reality based on most advice its best to wait 8 weeks, that would put you at cycle start at the beginning of march. you can just jump into if you dont want to wait, that is your call. i understand your desire to be awesome when you turn 30 but id wait and let your body recover, make sure your shit is back on par. id train hard the next few months, enjoy your 30th, go to vegas, live it up, and when you get back reward yourself with 16 hard ass weeks of balls to the wall training and dieting and ****ing kill it. my opinion, your 30, but only 30 and you got alot of time left. but that is just me.

    keep us updated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goode80 View Post
    4 week cycle.....im in 2nd week of pct going to do 4 total

    so cycle and pct will be total of 8 weeks
    Give us exact dates of when you did both your cycles

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