Beginner :D

**Zizzy** · 12-07-2009, 03:38 PM

Hey, Iv Been Training A While Now , And Thought To MySelf Its Time To Start On The Gear, To See Much Better Gains

At The Moment Iv Been Taking
Sust 350, 500mg A Week, And Im On My 5th Week

And I Was Just Wondering If You Guys Could Give Me Advice On Where To Go When I Finish My Cycle?
What Would You Reccomend Me Take Next Ect...

Thanks Zizzy

**marcus300** · 12-07-2009, 03:41 PM

What are your stats?
How long have you been training?
You should ask for advice before starting any cycle not half way through it,
What do you mean where should you go? where do you want to go?
Do you have PCT?
What is your diet like?

**BJJ** · 12-07-2009, 03:42 PM

Stats?

**Zizzy** · 12-07-2009, 03:45 PM

5ft 10,
12stone 6,
Not to sure on my body fat , Avarage if thats any help
Well iv been readin in forums for a while, but never joined one,
And my mates down the gym helped me out,
I Wona Keep Training, Like What Steroids Would Be Best Next, As I Carnt Stay On Sust?

**marcus300** · 12-07-2009, 03:48 PM

How old are you?
How long have you been training for?
What is does your diet look like?
do you understand PCT?

**Zizzy** · 12-07-2009, 03:54 PM

Im 18,
Iv Been Training Allmost 2Years, But Recently Iv Been Training Much Harder,
I Read About Post Cycle Therapy , Wouldnt Say I Understand It 100%
Yer I Have A Good Diet,
Loads Of Chicken, Pasta, Meat Ect..

**C-MaN** · 12-07-2009, 03:56 PM

Not trying to be an Arss but just from the very limited info you've given I honestly think you should not go anywhere near AAS. But since you are already on sus its a little too late for that. Hopefully you are running an AI and have a decent PCT arranged. Best of luck

EDIT: If you are 18 you need to get off cycle ASAP ! That is entirely too young. I didnt start til I was 23 and that is pushing it in my opinion when it comes to starting at a young age. Also not trying to be harsh but I am about 99% sure your diet needs help. Head over to the Diet section and get it worked out with the guys over there, stop cycle imediately and train natural for atleast another 5 or 6 years.

**marcus300** · 12-07-2009, 03:59 PM

Come off all steroids and start pct and don't go near them again until your 24-25yrs old, your going to damage yourself for life if your not careful.

In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

**Zizzy** · 12-07-2009, 04:04 PM

I Know Its A Young Age, But Im Not The Youngest Believe It Or Not, Most Guy Down The Gym ( That Are Mates With me ), That Are Huge, And Have Been On The Gear For Some Time Started When They Was 16,17,18,19,20, I Know Its No Excuse, Just Wonted To Up My Gains As Eveyrone Els Is Doin,

**marcus300** · 12-07-2009, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Zizzy

I Know Its A Young Age, But Im Not The Youngest Believe It Or Not, Most Guy Down The Gym ( That Are Mates With me ), That Are Huge, And Have Been On The Gear For Some Time Started When They Was 16,17,18,19,20, I Know Its No Excuse, Just Wonted To Up My Gains As Eveyrone Els Is Doin,

It doesnt matter if your not the youngest, stop what your doing your going to hurt yourself....did you even read what i wrote?

Do you want to have low test for life?
Do you not want to be able to get a hard on?
Do you want to be injecting for the rest of your life? HRT
Do you want to suffer from depression and mood swings?
Do you want children one day?
Do you want to have small testicles?
Do you want me to go on? because i can

**Researcher** · 12-07-2009, 04:13 PM

Good luck bro you're gonna be the biggest limp dicked guy in town

**Researcher** · 12-07-2009, 04:14 PM

Why do you capitalize the first letter of every word?

**PistolStarta** · 12-07-2009, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Researcher

Why do you capitalize the first letter of every word?

thank you

**ohlsson** · 12-07-2009, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Zizzy

I Know Its A Young Age, But Im Not The Youngest Believe It Or Not, Most Guy Down The Gym ( That Are Mates With me ), That Are Huge, And Have Been On The Gear For Some Time Started When They Was 16,17,18,19,20, I Know Its No Excuse, Just Wonted To Up My Gains As Eveyrone Els Is Doin,

man get off ur cycle, take it from a young guy who wants to do a tbol cycle at 20, 21 and even i consider myself to young to it then. 18 is seriously dumb, especially sustanon , get off ur cycle, i actually know where marcus is coming from on this, sustanon is pretty powerful,

**reichertc2009** · 12-08-2009, 09:31 AM

damb.......

**MisterMaster** · 12-08-2009, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Zizzy

I Know Its A Young Age, But Im Not The Youngest Believe It Or Not, Most Guy Down The Gym ( That Are Mates With me ), That Are Huge, And Have Been On The Gear For Some Time Started When They Was 16,17,18,19,20, I Know Its No Excuse, Just Wonted To Up My Gains As Eveyrone Els Is Doin,

A lot of 18-year-olds are also using cocaine and heroin. Does that mean you should do it?

I'm sorry, but it's idiots like you who made steroids illegal to being with.

You have PLENTY of your own testosterone to be MORE THAN ENOUGH for you to grow and get big. At 18, your own testosterone are the highest they'll every be? Why did you decide to shut down your own engine (your testicles) so that you could inject some drugs the some dude in the gym gave you. It doesn't make sense.

There's a reason noone here will give you advice.

**urbanbody** · 12-08-2009, 12:10 PM

No need to flame this guy for asking questions geez. Let's just give him our advice and hopefully he takes it in and we saved another teen from killing his testosterone !

**LeroyB** · 12-08-2009, 12:16 PM

Its like everyday people come on the forum with this. I am inspired by your people that keep helping and trying to warn young people about these dangers. I hope some of them at least listen.
Thanks to all the VETS!