Nolvadex

**CORR24** · 12-11-2009, 12:33 PM

I am gonna be runnin 250-500mg test e per wk, along with 200mg of deca a week for 12 weeks and run the test 2 weeks past the deca, and for my PCT i plan on doin Nolvadex for 4 weeks 20-40mg a day, my question is will it be ok to go with nolvadex only and no clomid.

**tboney** · 12-11-2009, 12:34 PM

Stats? age? cycle exp.?

**redz** · 12-11-2009, 12:34 PM

Nolva only pct is pretty weak, I would sugest getting some Clomid and HCG . Also that dose of deca i very low, I would sugest running atleast 400mg/week with the deca and 500mg/week with the test. However if this is a first cycle drop the deca entirely.

**Necrosaro** · 12-11-2009, 12:35 PM

Both work together....what is your previous cycle experience since if you are having problems figuring out with nolva and clomid you should do some more searching as to what you are putting into your body. Deca is certainly not good for a first cycle even if added with test.

**CORR24** · 12-11-2009, 12:40 PM

Im 25, 175lbs, have not cycled in almost 2 years, tryin to get back into things. Im not tryin to put on 30 pounds just lookin for some solid muscle gains. Thats why im kinda go low with the dosages. Im definately here to listen to u expierienced guys though, thanks Ive used test and deca before

**CORR24** · 12-11-2009, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by CORR24

I am gonna be runnin 250-500mg test e per wk, along with 200mg of deca a week for 12 weeks and run the test 2 weeks past the deca, and for my PCT i plan on doin Nolvadex for 4 weeks 20-40mg a day, my question is will it be ok to go with nolvadex only and no clomid.

I dont plan on putin on 30 lbs so thats why im stickin kinda low on the doses.

**TITANIUM** · 12-11-2009, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by tboney

Stats? age? cycle exp.?

Originally Posted by redz

Nolva only pct is pretty weak, I would sugest getting some Clomid and HCG. Also that dose of deca i very low, I would sugest running atleast 400mg/week with the deca and 500mg/week with the test. However if this is a first cycle drop the deca entirely.

Yes to both^^^^^^^^.

What cycles and pct did you run before?

Stats are usually given to cut down on confusion.

Best

T

**mrutah** · 12-11-2009, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by redz

Nolva only pct is pretty weak, I would sugest getting some Clomid and HCG. Also that dose of deca i very low, I would sugest running atleast 400mg/week with the deca and 500mg/week with the test. However if this is a first cycle drop the deca entirely.

just wondering why he should drop the deca for first cycle? I had read that a good beginner cycle is test and deca?

**TITANIUM** · 12-11-2009, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by mrutah

just wondering why he should drop the deca for first cycle? I had read that a good beginner cycle is test and deca?

No.

Bad first go around.

Test only.

I have read the same info also.(certain books).....

Good second cycle though.

Best

T

**mrutah** · 12-11-2009, 10:36 PM

dang, not to hijack his thread but I have been on test for 4 weeks and monday I was going to throw in 300 mg of deca for help with the joint pain, and I wouldn't mind the extra mass either. I was going to then run the test deca for 10 weeks. But thats a bad idea?

Originally Posted by TITANIUM

No.

Bad first go around.

Test only.

I have read the same info also.(certain books).....

Good second cycle though.

Best

T

**TITANIUM** · 12-11-2009, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by mrutah

dang, not to hijack his thread but I have been on test for 4 weeks and monday I was going to throw in 300 mg of deca for help with the joint pain, and I wouldn't mind the extra mass either. I was going to then run the test deca for 10 weeks. But thats a bad idea?

I'm not sure of your cycle exp, but usually deca is run for 10 weeks from the beginning of the cycle with test.

Usually @ 400 mgs wk.

Then , the test is run 2 wks longer than the deca.

So,

Test @ 500 mgs wk = 12 wks

Deca @ 400 mgs wk= 10 wks

PCT starts 2 wks after last test injection, or 3 wks after last deca jab.(not sure what test you are using)

Best

T

**mrutah** · 12-11-2009, 10:56 PM

so my thoughts was backload the cycle with deca so I could know what each compound was doing, and I knew if I started both at the same time that I wouldn't be able to tell what was causing side effects if I had any.
So I figure now that I am 4 weeks into test cypionate I would know how my body reacts to it and if I backloaded the deca and test together for the next 10 weeks, I would benifit with extra mass and the joint support from deca.
so basically
week 1-14 test cypionate 500 mg, nolvadex
week 4-14 deca
pct
hcg and nolvadex
I have thought about clomid also but i have heard so much bad things about it lately like problems with vision and massive depression. so I was hoping the hcg and nolvadex will work.

Originally Posted by TITANIUM

I'm not sure of your cycle exp, but usually deca is run for 10 weeks from the beginning of the cycle with test.

Usually @ 400 mgs wk.

Then , the test is run 2 wks longer than the deca.

So,

Test @ 500 mgs wk = 12 wks

Deca @ 400 mgs wk= 10 wks

PCT starts 2 wks after last test injection, or 3 wks after last deca jab.(not sure what test you are using)

Best

T

**TITANIUM** · 12-11-2009, 11:25 PM

Stop the deca in wk 12.

Clomid is fine, I don't even no I'm on it.

It's weeks after pct that gets to me.

Best

T

**mrutah** · 12-11-2009, 11:35 PM

sweet thanks man I didn't mean to hijack the thread I had just heard so many good things about deca , and I heard it was pretty mild as far as sides.
Thank you for all your help

Originally Posted by TITANIUM

Stop the deca in wk 12.

Clomid is fine, I don't even no I'm on it.

It's weeks after pct that gets to me.

Best

T