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    Deca/Test C/OxyMeth Cycle

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    Age: 25
    Height: 5'11
    Weight:80 Kg
    BF% : no idea. but its low.
    Diet (details please)*: 160g protein + 3000 Cal diet
    Cycle Exp: Have used Deca , test E, Oxymeth in past.

    Training Exp: Intermediate level. I know what I am doing and what if effects.

    Oxymeth 25 mg 4 weeks
    Deca 500 mg 10 weeks
    Test 500 mg 12 weeks

    PCT:

    HCG : 500IU week 4 weeks
    Tamox - 40/40/20/20
    Clomid - 100/100/50/50

    Dostinex (Cabergoline) and Bromo (Bromocriptine), B-6

    My question:

    Please comment on

    Cycle

    PCT

    I have no cycle idea for caber and bromo. Can anyone suggest something to clear it out. ?

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    Test with deca should be ran higher as it is common knowledge...can we get some more information about your use in aas by how long ago and what you did in detail please

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    No problems dude I am just here to help you out and thanks for the information

    Why not just a cycle of Test C or E ran at 500mg's(250mg's shot every Monday morning and Thursday night) with a kickstart if you want? Even Sust could be a suggestion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosaro View Post
    No problems dude I am just here to help you out and thanks for the information

    Why not just a cycle of Test C or E ran at 500mg's(250mg's shot every Monday morning and Thursday night) with a kickstart if you want? Even Sust could be a suggestion?
    Last time I ran test and wasnt a good enough result.

    I want to bulk up. Deca did gave good results in past. So was thinking of using it but then I have to add test as suggested by tons of ppl on steroid forum.

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    I see no reason to run test higher than deca , looks solid to me.
    I'd prefer hcg on cycle at 500ie/e5d, and I would run
    clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 40/20/20/20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I see no reason to run test higher than deca , looks solid to me.
    I'd prefer hcg on cycle at 500ie/e5d, and I would run
    clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 40/20/20/20

    So Cycle:

    Oxymeth 25 mg 4 weeks
    Deca 500 mg 10 weeks
    Test 500 mg 10 weeks

    I hear more and more on running test longer. + Is running Oxymeth in first 4 weeks fine ?


    PCT:

    HCG: 500ie/e5d
    Tamox - 40/40/20/20
    Clomid - 100/100/50/50

    Also should I go for Dostinex (Cabergoline) and Bromo (Bromocriptine), B-6 .. to prevent deca dick. ? If yes then do you have idea on the Dose and usage ?
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    Oxymeth is drol? If so 25mg is to small dose. Do atleast 50mg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omna82 View Post
    Oxymeth is drol? If so 25mg is to small dose. Do atleast 50mg.
    Oxymetholone (Anadrol ). Yea.

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    OK here is the cycle if you wud liek to go for.
    OK correct me if I am wrong guys ... Its been 3 decades since i stopped using gears..LOL
    ANy how jokes apart:-

    Test Enanthate /Cyp what ever you prefer

    Test Ent or Cyp 500mg for 12 weeks
    Deca 250mg for 10 weeks
    Anaploon 50 mg for 4 weeks


    and PCT as Big said. and that all.
    Like it said here in the forum "You have o eat , nothing will come out of thin Air".
    Stick to the rules and you will be Big.

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    But then Big Said no need to use 2 weeks extra test. Also any suggestions over caber and bromo. ? I dont see a post on how to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernox View Post
    But then Big Said no need to use 2 weeks extra test. Also any suggestions over caber and bromo. ? I dont see a post on how to use it.
    no, I said no to using a higher test dose than deca , the deca will suppress your natural test but will not suppress the test that you inject. I would run the test/deca as listed in your initial post, personally I like at least 50mg/day drol, I would run the HCG during the cycle from the beginning but stop before pct, and I would run the pct as I listed above, not as you listed it after my post.

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    So basically if I run 500mg deca .. test should be 500mg as well.

    Ok. then it becomes:

    Cycle:

    Oxymeth 50 mg 4 weeks
    Deca 500 mg 10 weeks
    Test 500 mg 12 weeks
    HCG 500ie e5d so 17 times. ouch!

    PCT:

    Tamox - 40/40/20/20
    Clomid - 100/100/50/50


    Anything on deca dick ? people talk about caber and bromo ? Should I add them as well or skip ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernox View Post
    So basically if I run 500mg deca .. test should be 500mg as well.

    Ok. then it becomes:

    Cycle:

    Oxymeth 50 mg 4 weeks
    Deca 500 mg 10 weeks
    Test 500 mg 12 weeks
    HCG 500ie e5d so 17 times. ouch!

    PCT:

    Tamox - 40/40/20/20
    Clomid - 100/100/50/50


    Anything on deca dick ? people talk about caber and bromo ? Should I add them as well or skip ?
    I'm not sure why you don't want to run the pct as I suggested, but I guess yours will work. Doubtful you need caber or bromo for that cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I'm not sure why you don't want to run the pct as I suggested, but I guess yours will work. Doubtful you need caber or bromo for that cycle.
    I did go wrong somewhere ?

    I posted exact as you said:

    Deca/Test C/OxyMeth Cycle

    EDIT : Oh.

    clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 40/20/20/20


    I did 100 and 40 extra. Sorry about that.

    Thats correct now ?

    Cycle:

    Oxymeth 50 mg 4 weeks
    Deca 500 mg 10 weeks
    Test 500 mg 12 weeks
    HCG 500ie e5d so 17 times. ouch!

    PCT:

    clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 40/20/20/20


    Ok now this might sound stupid. But If I lower test and Deca to 250mg ? will take coz any trouble. As the way I see its a long way with needles. After completion of the cycle my glute will be like that Garden Sprinkler . Just asking.
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    looks good, I shoot hcg sub-q with a slin pin so the shots don't hurt at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    looks good, I shoot hcg sub-q with a slin pin so the shots don't hurt at all
    So "Ok now this might sound stupid. But If I lower test and Deca to 250mg ? will take coz any trouble. As the way I see its a long way with needles. After completion of the cycle my glute will be like that Garden Sprinkler . Just asking. "
    Is Deca and test C @ 250mg is ok ?

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    I would inject twice weekly anyway, you should use other injection sites as well, I like delts (shoulders) and quads more than glutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I would inject twice weekly anyway, you should use other injection sites as well, I like delts (shoulders) and quads more than glutes.
    I was planning as Monday/Wed/Friday.

    so Deca Monday, HCG Wed and Test Friday.

    I am actually typing the correction side by side on a file. Once everything clears up I'll conclude at the end of the post. .. I'll print out and start with that. That way I wont miss anything.

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    you can mix the deca and test in the same shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    you can mix the deca and test in the same shot
    So,

    250 Deca /Test on Monday, 500IU HCG Wed and 250 mg Deca/Test on Friday.

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    I would shoot the HCG e5d at most, but shooting it sub-q in the belly area with an insulin syringe is pretty much painless, so don't be put off by those shots. test/deca could be monday/thurs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I would shoot the HCG e5d at most, but shooting it sub-q in the belly area with an insulin syringe is pretty much painless, so don't be put off by those shots. test/deca could be monday/thurs
    Insulin Syringe shots .. never tried it. Will look around to see a practical.

    with this I am nearly done. Next I'll try posting the Gear Pics.

    My supplier said about read the rules mate. And some other test vial. But for test I think I can use Human grade Test available with chemists. For Anadrol I have this:

    Edited

    Will post the pics in the thread in few days.

    Thanx for all the help Big.. ... you just unloaded alot of burden off my shoulders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    no, I said no to using a higher test dose than deca, the deca will suppress your natural test but will not suppress the test that you inject. I would run the test/deca as listed in your initial post, personally I like at least 50mg/day drol, I would run the HCG during the cycle from the beginning but stop before pct, and I would run the pct as I listed above, not as you listed it after my post.
    Oh Sorry Big.. I didn't get it. was reading pretty similar posts in the forum so i mixed.

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    Just got Decabol 250 Vial. Anyone interested in telling if its real or fake.

    Deca 250mg 10ml vial
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    you can mix the deca and test in the same shot
    how about test prop and winny??

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    is sub-q always the only way to go for hcg ??

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    @Charesriley: Please make a separate thread. Please dont here

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    Back with my previous post:

    Just got Decabol 250 Vial. Anyone interested in telling if its real or fake.

    Deca 250mg 10ml vial

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    Bump the abombs to 50mg and the test doesn't have to be ran higher than the deca .

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankdiesel View Post
    Bump the abombs to 50mg and the test doesn't have to be ran higher than the deca.
    abombs = Androl right ?

    Also mate any details of not running test longer than deca ?

    "Big" told me to run 2 weeks longer .. even bladerunner9 too

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernox View Post
    abombs = Androl right ?

    Also mate any details of not running test longer than deca ?

    "Big" told me to run 2 weeks longer .. even bladerunner9 too
    you are confusing "higher" and "longer". as hank said, you don't need to run test higher than deca. I would run the test longer than deca depending on the ester of the test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    you are confusing "higher" and "longer". as hank said, you don't need to run test higher than deca. I would run the test longer than deca depending on the ester of the test.
    Ah sorry. I got it.

    I need to run longer than deca . But not higher than Deca


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    exactly. deca is a very long ester and can linger, so if you were using test e or test c you would want to leave the test a couple weeks longer so the test doesn't clear while the deca is still active. for the sake of discussion, if the cycle was drastically mismatched and you were using deca and test prop, I would stop the deca 4 to 5 weeks before stopping the prop. ideally I like to match esters closely for proper start/stop times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    exactly. deca is a very long ester and can linger, so if you were using test e or test c you would want to leave the test a couple weeks longer so the test doesn't clear while the deca is still active. for the sake of discussion, if the cycle was drastically mismatched and you were using deca and test prop, I would stop the deca 4 to 5 weeks before stopping the prop. ideally I like to match esters closely for proper start/stop times.
    test prop is done EOD right ?

    I am getting your point on deca being a long ester.

    Also just a casual question: Which one of the test pains more Test E or C ? What I read is Test C. Still would like a reply from you

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    I shoot prop every day.
    e and c are practically identical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I shoot prop every day.
    e and c are practically identical.
    Ah ok. Well with what I see charlesriley wrote:

    Deca 250mg 10ml vial

    I am thinking of trying another brand for deca .

    Have been checking out for test but as deca same shit. So I'm thinking of using the one with chemist, any idea if that can be fake either ?

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