it doesn't work that way. I would not exceed 50mg/day for more than 5 weeks, that is pushing it, and that will not use 300 10mg tabs. the tabs will keep for years, stop being hard-headed.
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Again, the tablets do not all have to be used at once. But I do want to use them all. Even if it needs to be two cycles. Do you think 50 mg/day for 5 weeks would be god enough? What about 50 mg/day for 4 weeks, then two-four weeks off, then the other 50 mg/day for 4 weeks?
I think the whole thing is a waste of time, I was just advising the maximum safe dosage. if you chose to run a second cycle with them, I would wait a couple months after pct before another go. next time you should ask your questions before you order, there are some oral-only cycles I really like.
liver happy for someone you're size is probably 20mg a day would more then suffice, and basicly stacking a test is the way to go, dbol is a "/cycle starter", you need to add test to your equation if you want to have you're gains stay on you're body after 3 month.
if you wanna look like those little boys pumping up to 220 pounds from like 170, and then see them in another 3-4 months with liver issues and being back to 155 pounds go for it, do d-bol only cycle.
if you don't wanna end up like these weaklings, man up, take a tower put it in your mouth and take the needle and shuve it in your butt cheek, don't take 2 hours to pounder if you should stick it in or not, get it done with then you'll stop fearing the pain because it dosent hurt.
and max for dbol cycle for d-bol is 6 weeks, most people will tell you 3-4 weeks to do it, and to drink atleast 2 gallons of water per day, and do some cardio, and take either liv52 or milk thistle
tbol, anavar, primo all aren't bad, better than dbol if used properly.
I think you were allready told this... 40mg for 4weeks max ran with Test. I was a little nervouse about needles too but you should try stabbing ur self instead of pently poking it. I just throw it in there and dont feel a damn thing. you sit there and play around that shit hurtz
o woops i didnt see that there was more then one page I answered a question on the first page my bad lol
What's so wrong with Dianabol? How is it that everything you gain, you magically lose? I've heard other people say that Dbol only cycles give them good, consistent gains and is one of their favorite cycles.
Bro listen up k 20mg is by far enough do a 6week cycle at 20mg a day for 3 weeks then down to 15mg a day for 1 week then 10mg a day for 1 week then 5mg a day for a week after the last day begin with your pct for 2 weeks take milk thistle daily drink heaps of water and KEEP TRAINING dont stop k dont take 40mg jus save for your next cycle time on = time off your gona lose round 50% dont worry most of its water keep training your keep abit depends on you tho but listen to the pros they know what they on about.
I never said you lose all of your gains on dbol, I said there are other oral compounds I would prefer if I were to run an oral-only cycle.
this guy is hard headed lock the thread be done with it.
You really got to read up about it befor you use it k no rush
2-3 pounds of lean muscles per week.
if you're diet is in check, and you train properly and have plenty of rest, yes, at you're size 20mg a day is like 40mg for someone who is 220+ pounds,
but steroids aren't a magical pill,
here the catch, *you're first cycle is always the best cycle you'll ever have*
if you messed it up by not having a good diet or workout ect.. you will lose the most important cycle.
so if I were you I'd study the diet section and workouts before even jumping in steroids, and wouldn't go higher then 20mg/day! because you'll only piss the rest at you're size.
Wow, thanks!
OK, what would you guys recommend for PCT? I was just thinking about doing a cycle of Clomid or Nolvadex. Should I take milk thistle as well? Is PCT even necessary with such a low dose like 20 mg/day (...still seems a little hard to believe).
Nolvadex or Clomid? Take em' both.
Liv 52, or Milk Thistle (Liver support)
Hawthorne berries (Cardiovascular support)
Creatine
Lots o' protein
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Also, as everyone else has said, make sure you've got your diet in check. :)
By the way, there's some GREAT reading posted on the stickies, that'll answer pretty much any future questions that you feel the need to ask.
I know, it's information overload reading the stickies, but if you're not willing to read, and learn, then it's most likely you'll lose your gains, and be back at square one.
~Peace!
Among all the drugs available for an oral cycle, what was the reason for you to choose dbol over the others?
By the way, I think you are too young for aas.
I'm on 20mg/ED Dbol and Test Prop 50mg/EOD. Aromasin 10mg/ED.
I was actually on Dbol alone with Aromasin and Proviron 25mg/ED for 3-4 weeks and I was gaining, but it made me very lethergic. Adding a low dose of Testosterone solved things.
Dbol alone isnt optimal, but one can keep a % of the gains with a decent PCT, diet and training protocol.
At 21 you shouldnt be cycling. If you decided too, stay away from compounds that aromotase and 19-Nor's.
by the time week to comes around yourl be nice an buff but train hard like really hard and eat and eat and rest and rest good food only i recomend clomid for pct good luck and at the end when you get weak push through it this is wheva you wasted your money or not you slak off here yourl lose alot more
Alright then,there is no such thing as a good oral only cycle so for the time being get diet in check and take however long you need to get comfortable with the idea of needles.I used to be like you until my friend invited me to watch him pin and i realized that it wasn't nearly as bad as i had made it out to be,2 months later i was on my first cycle...just wait and do it right it will be worth it
This is such a ridiculous thread. We get these "dianabol only cycle" threads all the time, at least 2 a week. This has got to be the worst. Most people just ignore us and go ahead and run it anyway, I'm guessing. You've been working out for 2 years, and you want to start running cycles? Give me a fking break man. Have some discipline. You're handicapping yourself at 21, that is in no realm a good idea.
You want a good boost into a healthier lifestyle? You think steroids is going to help you? If you can't find it within yourself to maintain a healthy lifestyle then AAS is not for you. Not only are you exhibiting bad decision making skills by deciding to use AAS at this stage in your life, you are going about it COMPLETELY the wrong way.
You know all those guys you see on the news editorials and reports about how bad steroids are? You are those guys. Those are the guys that didn't want to do research, didn't want to hear what anyone had to say...and did it anyway. It came back and bit them in the ass, and now they cry about it and blame their misfortunes on AAS. It's always better to find some beast lurking in the night to blame your stupidity on.
Do us all a favor, and don't use AAS.
holy shat........10 peolple are telling you what to do!!!!!
research dianabol........its not that complicated...good luck
What kind of gains were you making?
mmk im not an expert by any means..... ive done my research.. countless hours in fact. im not gona tell you what to do but honestly i think your post is a complete joke and an insult to this site. first of all if your diet and workout program is shit then why take steroids??? second if your gona take steroids then why take dianabol alone?? (o its because its all you ordered????) dianabol wont do shit inless you stack it with an injectable to keep the gains from it. and your scared of needles. oooook well if your scared of needles then think of the effects of takin all that dianabol and destroying your liver without knowing what the hell your doing. and THEN having to get your stomach CUT open to replace your liver IF your lucky. chances are that wont happn and you will die from liver malfunction!!! dude seriously if you want to change your body u have to change your life. forget about drugs and be all you can be!!!! then if things dont happin do what you want
plus its fake anyway. do all you want!!! take your protein powder!!! LOL
Some of these posts were humorous to read. Something a lot of you are forgetting is that he is 21, has high bf, and has been working out "on and off" for two years. That means he is not consistent with the gym or any workout routine.
either way hankdiesel. takin that much dbol will f u up lol. plus 75% of what you would gain would be lost in 2 months!!!
for someone who really has very little experience with anabolics 50mg a day is too much u shouldnt need that much. as for the brand u mentionedi have not heard of it so im assuming it ug brand and prob under dosed more than likely or low quality. 5 of those 10mg tabs wouldnt be the same as taking 10 thai anabols or russians. seems like u have your mind made up though but if u wont inject atleast try and get some winny tabs or var to add.
Dude, he's younger than 21. He already said he'd get kicked out if he posted his stats. Then when he finally did post them, he was magically 21, and not a single one of his "stats" were ban worthy.
If that's not an obvious lie from a 17 year old, I don't know what is. This guy is going to screw up his body and wind up on hormone replacements for life.
And further more, what grown man would be such a ***** over needles? The guy is a kid, plain and simple.
dont listen to this guy, hes another idiot who ran insulin only cycle and then lied about his results
he also has the lifts of school girl,
im amazed hes actually giving advice
to the OP, seriously u think taking dianabol cycle will give you a healthy boost in your lifestyle? how stupid are you?
its simple, put the steroids down and stop screwing yourself
even if we thought u were ready for steroids, NO ONE would advise you to run dianabol alone
if your scared of needles then grow the fuk up, ur clearly still a baby, and if you havent got the confidence to post ur stats then ur not ready for steroids
their not magic pills, thatll turn you into a muscle man
this thread is funny, so much advice from randoms people with like 23 posts.....
seriosuly dont take advice from these people, their probably as dum as you