19 yr old, hgh, steroids, help please

**jordanlee** · 12-15-2009, 05:03 AM

right here goes...

im 19 years old, 6 ft 3''

weigh around 10 stone ( shocking i know lol )

had around 4 ml of tren acetate, 5 ml test 500, and 4 ml test cypionate , and around 40 / 50 oxymetolone 50's, i know thats very stupid and i hate myself for it but when all the lads are going the gym and you first start and dont have a clue and they say '' oh have a jab of this it will make u huge you just thing oh yeah that sounds good! ''

but any way im thinking of starting HGH, as i want a little more high and to gain more size, im very very small built, like i said 10 stone.... can any 1 on here poss give me a heads up on this HGH eg dose.. and any other info, all will be apriciated.. i was wondering too would my growth seals be closed after the few ml of jabs and the few orals ? thanks for any replys!

**barnyap** · 12-15-2009, 05:05 AM

dude, stop smoking crack the only advice here is DIET,TRAIN,REST you prob have no idea howto diet or train and ur thinking HGH..

**lovbyts** · 12-15-2009, 05:13 AM

Taking any steroids at your age can/will do more harm than good. Your body already produces more Testosterone and HGH than you need right now. Learn to eat and you will gain and maintain all your strength and size.

Anything you take at your age will only shut down your natural production of Testosterone and HGH and you will have a hard time getting it to start up again. Also you will fuse your growth plates so you wont grow any taller or wider so it will be even harder for you to gain weight in the future.

This is why we say wait until you are at least 25 yrs old and have a minimum of 2 SOLID years in they gym and your diet is VERY good, 6+ meals a day.

Stick around and learn but you really need to spend most of your time in the diet section so you can learn what to eat and when to eat it.

**jordanlee** · 12-15-2009, 05:15 AM

thanks lovbyts.

**stevey_6t9** · 12-15-2009, 05:43 AM

10 stone? man oif u got ur diet fixed u cud grow so much

**jordanlee** · 12-15-2009, 07:10 AM

i want to get 2 at least 12 stone because 10 stone is very under weight for my height!

**gsxracer** · 12-15-2009, 07:25 AM

everyone started working out, at the age of 18-19, and basicly none of us /ran to AAS to help us, because this is where you're gonna gain like 30 pounds in first 3 months of training without AAS by just eating properly and take supplements like creatine, glutamines,

and considering your this size it means that there is no way you have trained more then 1-2 years, and even to that. so basicly if you jump on the AAS wagon, you'll have injuries and you might stay small forever because you body probably havent tapped into all the muscle tissues , /muahahaha evil grin,

**ScotchGuard** · 12-15-2009, 07:28 AM

There's no magic bullet in AAS. Maximize your natural potential with a good diet and training. It'll take a number of years to achieve your potential. Thinking that AAS can short cut your natural development is dangerous thinking.

**marcus300** · 12-15-2009, 07:35 AM

AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development

DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.

**corsa5000** · 12-15-2009, 11:27 AM

nuff said

**holdmypole-r1** · 12-15-2009, 01:39 PM

nicely put...

**hankdiesel** · 12-15-2009, 01:43 PM

How about learn how to workout properly and eat 6 meals a day. Don't look for the quick fix because you won't last.

**Remoguy** · 12-15-2009, 01:53 PM

Hey Marc im just wondering if someone takes AAS at any age wont it mess it up you natural production regardless if young or old??? I have always wondered why there is such need to wait tell your older to take them. I did some research and I found that it is not actually proven that steroids affect your growth plates, but the intense training while your on them might be the blame. And I was wondering if shooting up when your young is so bad why do pro's get away with it? are they just always on them.

**dec11** · 12-15-2009, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Remoguy

Hey Marc im just wondering if someone takes AAS at any age wont it mess it up you natural production regardless if young or old??? I have always wondered why there is such need to wait tell your older to take them. I did some research and I found that it is not actually proven that steroids affect your growth plates, but the intense training while your on them might be the blame. And I was wondering if shooting up when your young is so bad why do pro's get away with it? are they just always on them.

its in his post at the start

**Remoguy** · 12-15-2009, 02:07 PM

I reread marcs quote and your right sorry man.

**baseline_9** · 12-15-2009, 04:28 PM

Is this a joke?

**ranging1** · 12-15-2009, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development

DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.