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  1. 12-17-2009, 11:02 PM #1
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    Helppp please, do I have gyno? (pics)

    Hey All.. I have a few pics posted below of me flex/relaxed. I took extra to help you decide.. My nipples are naturally puffy, It just seems to me they are starting to sag? I do have lumps undernearth both and they do hurt if i press them in. I have been working out a lot more serious the past 5 months did a oral dbol cycle only the end of October.(yes i know, lol) It just boggles my brain because i did such a low dosage. Here is what i did.

    1-2w 20mg ED for 2 weeks WITH WEEKENDS OFF (sat/sun)
    2-3w 10mg Nolva 1 week after last dbol date
    3-4w 50mg Clomid 1 week after Nolva

    2 Weeks TOTAL because i started getting sensitive nipples and i felt a lump under my nipples so i panicked and quit mid cycle.

    185lbs - 5"11

    If any additional information is needed please ask.. If your curious about the weird cycle its because a local friend told me about it. I should of came here first.

    Thanks!
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  2. 12-17-2009, 11:03 PM #2
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    removed pics
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  3. 12-17-2009, 11:18 PM #3
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    the first pics look like u might have gyno, (could be the lighting)

    but the rest it seems like u dont

    also by looking at ur stupid cycle i doubt u have gyno since u run such a low dose of dbol
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  4. 12-18-2009, 12:46 AM #4
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    it does look like u might....or.. maybe yo have been squeezing them too much with your paranoia and their swollen
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  5. 12-18-2009, 07:39 AM #5
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    Flexed or pinched feel fine.. its the lump and sag that scares me..

    You think its safe to do another cycle?

    1-10w 375mg Sust
    1-4w 20mg dbol
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  6. 12-18-2009, 07:59 AM #6
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    prb have a little bit in the nips but nothing that would bother me. You may be very prone to it though
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  7. 12-18-2009, 08:32 AM #7
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    Correct me if Im wrong but is the top and bottom pictures after and before (in that sequence)? If so, I definately see a big change in your nipples bro. You might be developing gyno. I would most surely run and AI and see if that helps any. Just MO bro.
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  8. 12-18-2009, 08:48 AM #8
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    No.. they all within minutes of each other.. Some are me relaxed, some are flexed, some with nipple left alone and some with nipples pinched. My natural nipples are puffy. First 3 pics my nipples were left alone, the rest are pinched to see them differently.
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  9. 12-18-2009, 10:30 AM #9
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    Are you taking an AI just in case?
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  10. 12-18-2009, 10:39 AM #10
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    No.. only thing i've took and started taking again is Nolva 20mg. What do you suggest i take right now?
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  11. 12-18-2009, 10:48 AM #11
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    What types of AI's to you have access to?
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  12. 12-18-2009, 10:52 AM #12
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    Nothing on hand nor quickly.. but I can ask a few peeps around here and try getting something asap. Just need to know what and how much to take.

    Letrozole ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by matafaka View Post
    Nothing on hand nor quickly.. but I can ask a few peeps around here and try getting something asap. Just need to know what and how much to take.

    Letrozole?
    No not off the bat. Letro should be your last resort...if everything else fails.

    If you can get it, i'd suggest Arimidex @ .5mg/day until signs start going away.
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  14. 12-18-2009, 10:57 AM #14
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    they look yummy
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  15. 12-18-2009, 11:00 AM #15
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    So wait to start the next cycle or do you think i'll be ok? I'll order the Arimidex today, but i know it wont be here for 3 weeks. I have Sust/Dbol on hand and was planning on starting tomorrow with a friend.

    1-10w 375mg Sust
    1-4w 20mg dbol
    1-10w 10mg nolva ED

    Do i take Arimidex along with it? where would i fit that in?

    Appreciate the help btw
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  16. 12-18-2009, 11:07 AM #16
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    I'd wait to start your next cycle until your body has made a full recovery and until you have enough knowledge about using to not mislead yourself.

    It's not wise to run cycles while at the same time asking for others assistance.

    No offense bro, but you need to think about your body first. You know?
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  17. 12-18-2009, 11:08 AM #17
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    Completely understand and agree.. I'll tell my friend to wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matafaka View Post
    Completely understand and agree.. I'll tell my friend to wait.
    ????

    Are we not discussing all of this about you?

    Either way, good decision.
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  19. 12-18-2009, 11:18 AM #19
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    LOL yes. i meant because we were planning on starting the cycle together tomorrow but now i'm planning on waiting.. This Arimidex is going to be a pain in the ass to get.. already can tell from 2 phone calls.. sigh
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  21. 12-18-2009, 11:24 AM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by matafaka View Post
    LOL yes. i meant because we were planning on starting the cycle together tomorrow but now i'm planning on waiting.. This Arimidex is going to be a pain in the ass to get.. already can tell from 2 phone calls.. sigh
    What are you doing, calling pharmacies?
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  22. 12-18-2009, 11:25 AM #22
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    couple of my bobble head buddies lol.. they don't have any on hand and they tellin me its a bit*ch to get I'm gonna die with gyno
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  23. 12-18-2009, 11:30 AM #23
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    LOL, they can get gear but not the most important part of doing it?

    You need new friends.
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  24. 12-18-2009, 11:35 AM #24
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    top pics id say yes you do, tan pics it looks ok, must b frm b4?
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  25. 12-18-2009, 11:35 AM #25
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    They say Arimidex isn't necessary, they do nolva/clomid and thats it.. everyone has a diff prone level. I did 2 weeks and they got sensitive and sag/lump. They do 8-10 cycles and they fine :/

    What if im over reacting and i dont have anything? hypothetically.. what would happen if i take the arimidex?
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    Quote Originally Posted by matafaka View Post
    They say Arimidex isn't necessary, they do nolva/clomid and thats it.. everyone has a diff prone level. I did 2 weeks and they got sensitive and sag/lump. They do 8-10 cycles and they fine :/

    What if im over reacting and i dont have anything? hypothetically.. what would happen if i take the arimidex?
    Okay dude, clomid/nolva is good for PCT but if you are sensitive to estrogen, YOU need to run an AI. Keep it simple.

    Only YOU know your body's prior condition.I don't know if you're over reacting. If you believe they're getting swollen/bigger, run an AI.

    Cool?
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  27. 12-18-2009, 11:49 AM #27
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    from the first pics (which i assume are the latests, u DO have gyno)
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  28. 12-18-2009, 11:50 AM #28
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    Understood, ill try to get my hand on some aridimidex asap.

    Really appreciate the help and advice
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  29. 12-18-2009, 11:56 AM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by elpropiotorvic View Post
    from the first pics (which i assume are the latests, u DO have gyno)
    All the pics are within minutes of each other.. Some are with my nipple pinched some are diff angles because of the light.
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  30. 12-18-2009, 12:04 PM #30
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    I ain't a doctor but that dosen't look good, so I would stop whatever I'm on and try to correct it by using either letro or nolvadex . but I'm not an expert.
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    it looks like in the later pics you pinched the nips and they got allittle harder tightening to your body, which isnt a good indicator. Unpinched first few should be what are taken.
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  32. 12-18-2009, 12:10 PM #32
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    Ok so my last question is should I continue taking my nolva 20mg ED till I get my arimidex ?
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    read this man...

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=379916
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  34. 12-18-2009, 01:04 PM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooseman33 View Post
    read this man...

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=379916
    badass post, Why do you guys think i should stick with Arimidex for now instead of taking it to the next level and goin with Letro? I heard a little of even .05-.10 a day would be fine.
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    did u read that, it is all spelled out for u...
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  36. 12-18-2009, 01:38 PM #36
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    Kinda maybe thats not bad though man when you lower body fat and after cycle be fine
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    Is gyno reversable? I thought once you got it surgery was the only option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMilk View Post
    Is gyno reversable? I thought once you got it surgery was the only option.
    Some gyno is reversible. Letro is well known for doing this. However, sometimes (depending on degree) surgery is necessary.
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    I think its gyno. If you have to cycle then run nolva thru out entire cycle 10-20mg ED.
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