Madmax's next cycle....

**Madmax** · 01-13-2003, 03:37 PM

give me some opinions guys..my stats are 23 years old 5'11...224lbs...ending 4th cycle...12-14% fat..i really want to run the primo since i hate eq..... i know for 100% the primo's real.. no doubt at all...i think i may add andriol or anavar at the beggining...any and all opinions are greatly appreciated...thanks..Madmax..

fina 75mg ed (1-8) (Madmax pharmacy)
primo 400mg or eq 400mg (1-11) (Schering) or (Jurox)
sustanon 750mg (1-12) (organon)
winny 50mg ed (10-15) (zambon)
hgh 6 i.u....5 on 2 off.. (1-20) (serostim)

extra's i have on hand:

clomid post cycle (Anfarm Hellas)
nolvadex on hand (Zeneca)
arimidex on hand
clen post cycle
hcg on hand (pregnyl)
proviron on hand (Schering)
liv-52 (Himalaya Drug Company)

i also have acess to - parabolon (Negma, France)

**LAWNSAVER** · 01-13-2003, 04:32 PM

Looks solid! I would go with EQ as primo is fake entirely too much!

**CaliFella** · 01-13-2003, 04:44 PM

nice

**Warrior** · 01-13-2003, 05:09 PM

IMO - looks like a lot of gear, I would say stagger it out a bit more, begin with Test and Primo and end on Tren Winstrol while the Primobolan and Test Enanthate (Sus250) filter through. In this way you run one high androgen in the beginning to put on weight and at the and you run tren (3 times more androgenic than testosterone mg per mg) with Winstrol to carry you to post cycle therapy and cut it up a bit:

Weeks 1-10: Primo 400mg (frontload 800mg week 1)
Weeks 1-8: Sust250 750mg
Weeks 9-14: Trenbolone 75mg ED
Weeks 9-14: Winny 50mg ED

Clomid beginning 2 days after last Tren shot.

***JohnnyB*** · 01-13-2003, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by LAWNSAVER
Looks solid! I would go with EQ as primo is fake entirely too much!

Or you could make your own primo

JohnnyB

**MacGyver** · 01-13-2003, 06:04 PM

That sounds like a real BAMF cycle! Hey Mad how old are? I thought that GH wasnt really all that beneficial at a younger age (like below 30). Im real curious about it like the intake schedule. Can you fill me in as to your reasons and what you hope to accomplish w/ it.

Also are you gonna take the sust EOD or what? I seen in other posts where it makes a wolrd of a difference.

**Madmax** · 01-13-2003, 06:47 PM

750mg is eod..i'll be shooting on mon/wen/fri...ive used sust 3 times..all cycles i have used clomid and had nolva on hand..

cycle 1...
sust 500mg (1-8)
300mg laurabolin (1-8)
d-bol 25mg (1-4)

cycle 2...
600mg enathate (1-10)
150mg prop (1-10)
400mg eq (1-10)
d-bol 35mg (1-4)

cycle 3
750mg sust (1-10)
400mg deca (1-10)
andriol (1-4)
winny 50mg ed (9-13)
hgh 4 i.u 5 on 2 off (1-16)
clenbuterol

cycle 4
sust 750mg (1-12)
deca 400mg (1-12)
d-bol 40mg (1-5)
hgh 6 i.u 5 on 2 off (1-20)
winny 50mg (12-15)
clenbuterol
hcg

i take the hgh for 5 days mon-fri and off sat and sun...6 i.u per day..my goal with the growth is to maintain permanent muscle... hgh burns fat. It turns more body fat into energy... it strengthens the connective tissue..tendons and cartilages....hgh causes an increased <a href="http://www.allsportsnutrition.com/listproducts.php?style=category&value=PROTEIN" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.allsportsnutrition.com/listproducts.php?style=category&value=PROTEIN" target="_blank">protein</a></a> synthesis which causes enlargement and increase of muscle cells ...people say to wait till mid twenties..my growth plates are closed...23 is close enough imo..Madmax...

**nj_** · 01-13-2003, 06:48 PM

I'd run it like this...

wk 1-20 GH @ 6iu/ED 5 on 2 off
wk 1-12 primo @ 400mg/wk
wk 1-12 sust @ 750mg/wk (shot M,W,F)
wk 7-15 fina @ 75mg/ED
wk 9-15 winny @ 50mg/ED
wk 1-15 HCG @ 500iu/ED (shoot only on saturday & sunday)
wk 1-15 proviron @ 50mg/ED (lower SHBG levels)

I'd shoot for a very clean diet and throw in a bit of cardio, you should be able to drop some bf% doing that with no problem, might even hit the single digits. If you can get anavar and cost isn't an issue, I'd substitute it for the winny and run it wks 7-15 alongside the fina.

Just one question, what are your goals? To cut up or to bulk? If you're gonna bulk throw in some anadrol for wks 1-4.

**MacGyver** · 01-13-2003, 07:28 PM

You got it all thought out yo good job. How was the growth on the last cycle could you really feel it? what were your gains? Also how much is it about?

**Madmax** · 01-14-2003, 02:18 PM

need more opinions....bump...Madmax..

***JohnnyB*** · 01-14-2003, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by nj_
I'd run it like this...

wk 1-20 GH @ 6iu/ED 5 on 2 off
wk 1-12 primo @ 400mg/wk
wk 1-12 sust @ 750mg/wk (shot M,W,F)
wk 7-15 fina @ 75mg/ED
wk 9-15 winny @ 50mg/ED
wk 1-15 HCG @ 500iu/ED (shoot only on saturday & sunday)
wk 1-15 proviron @ 50mg/ED (lower SHBG levels)

That cycle looks good

JohnnyB

**djdjdjddjon** · 01-16-2003, 06:54 AM

looks fine to me, a few switches here or there as already mentioned, but i think you've come up with a good foundation, im keeping this vague because i have no extra advice then whats already been given, lol, good luck