tbol cycle - first time

[hamann08]

Hi,

I'm about to start a 6 week cycle with tbol.
I have never used steroids before and have some questions.
I have been training for about 1,5 years.

Is it good to use creatin while im on this cycle?

I have been recommended 30 mg daily. Is it ok? I was thinking 40 mg.
Do i use it every day or just training days? And if i will go out drinking a day, will i still take it?

I was thinking to take 10mg 07.00, 20mg 15.00, and 10 mg 23.00..
My plan is to gain muscles in 6 weeks and then use a clen cycle.

thanks for answers!! (my english isn't to good)

[peachfuzz]

age?
height?
weight?
bodyfat?
post cycle?

i wouldnt use clen after personally.

[Swifto]

Start at 40mg/ED IMHO. Split into 2 doses.

PCT with Tamox or Clomid, or both low dose.

[hamann08]

22 years
180cm
82kg
In the summer body fat was 13% i will guess 23% now.

why not clen after?

Im not that into dis.. ED is every day? and what is IMHO?
oki 2 doses. but when at the day? im training between 17.00-19.00

[gsxracer]

if you're 23% bf, get ready to be /smashed~!
#1 BB /diet~

[hamann08]

what do you mean get ready to be smashed?

[hamann08]

will a picture be helpful?
Can i insert a JPG from my computer?

[jaydream]

will a picture be helpful?
Can i insert a JPG from my computer?

Photo would help

[BJJ]

Do not cycle, your age is not the right one yet.
Also, in order to cycle your bf needs to be much lower than it is now.

[hamann08]

Taken 2 days ago
http://www.filefront.com/15179295/redigert.jpg

[hamann08]

take a look at the picture, im not sure about my BF.
Why does BF have to be low?

[Necrosaro]

You can get a wealth of sides while taking a cycle with higher body fat. Gyno,higher blood pressure and more.

[peachfuzz]

if your at 23% then i would suggest cutting first then bulking. work on the diet and consistent training. then consider a cycle. as mentioned there are greater risks cycling at a higher bodyfat.

IMHO = In My Humble Opinion

[hamann08]

could you check my photo first?
i am not sure at all that my bodyfat is 23%, probably less.

[peachfuzz]

i cant view it...

[MONEY AND MASS]

Im prob gunna get flamed cuz im new but no one else addressed it..

u asked about creatine on cycle, not totaly sure on specifics but no, u shudnt, somthin about when ur on cycle uv got creatine so taking exta supost to be hard on the kidneys ( i think its the kidneys ) its hard on somthin, use the creatine between cycles

[MONEY AND MASS]

oh ya,whats tbol?

[peachfuzz]

^I prefer to use creatine on cycle as i feel there is a synergistic effect in combining the two. really personal preference.

[peachfuzz]

oh ya,whats tbol?

Oral Turinabol

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199812

[MONEY AND MASS]

to each his own of course

[jaydream]

[hamann08]

try this

[MONEY AND MASS]

Oral Turinabol

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199812

interesting....

[TITANIUM]

Do not cycle, your age is not the right one yet.
Also, in order to cycle your bf needs to be much lower than it is now.

Agreed.

First cycle also.

Advice, loose some BF and adjust your diet accordingly.

You will be amazed as to what can be accomplished this way.

Put the gear on the shelf for now.

Best

T

[hamann08]

thanks for input but i will not diet anymore at this time. I have already been on dieting for a long period.. belive it or not.

I will diet after this cycle.

[cubnlynx]

You have been dieting for a long time and training for 1.5 years you could have fooled me.


Good luck

[barnyap]

you look pathetic to go on a cycle, my 14 year old brother who plays football has a better base than you

[gsxracer]

how can you have diet if you're 23% bodyfat,

I certainly don't wanna see when you don't diet, you make little babys cry...

Gyno Pronage inc... then again you might make babys happy?

[sully15]

guys are being kind of mean.. but then again i think he deserves it when he wants to go on a cycle and says hes been on a diet for awhile.. bro you have nooo clue how to diet, learn that first..

[2jz_calgary]

ya barnyap quit bein a ****in doucebagg

[dec11]

you look pathetic to go on a cycle, my 14 year old brother who plays football has a better base than you

theres more than one way to skin a cat you know, quit bashing for nothing, wheres your pic, big man?

[dec11]

how can you have diet if you're 23% bodyfat,

I certainly don't wanna see when you don't diet, you make little babys cry...

Gyno Pronage inc... then again you might make babys happy?

and you havent a clue either.

OP, get yourself professionally measured for bf, get a diet on track, the guys in tht section will help you out. dont listen to any prick on here with an attitude, they are just cowardly assholes who cant do it to any1 face to face

[gsxracer]

declan, are the steroids rage kickin in?

I think you should re-evaluate yourself, you might need a breath of fresh air.

[dec11]

declan, are the steroids rage kickin in?

I think you should re-evaluate yourself, you might need a breath of fresh air.

no sonny, your in need of the re-evaluation. seem to notice youve kept your silence on another thread when apparently, i havent got 'half your experience' but im sure big or marcus are on the job and you'll be warned. you might wanna read up on roid rage while you at it, mr knowledge, you may find it to be a myth

[gsxracer]

I'll be warned for giving out, my advice cool? lol...

road rage just a myth? mood enhancing isn't reality I guess, not myth these days.

even thought you got a degree in sports dosen't say much, to be honest I know alot of people with degree in sports who don't know much.

and I never kept my silence in the other threads, I'm just not trying to hi-jack every thread we decide to have a discussion in.

and who cares if bigs or marcus gives me a warning? you gonna go at mc Donalds and celebrate with your friends? seriously grow up.

[dec11]

I'll be warned for giving out, my advice cool? lol...

road rage just a myth? mood enhancing isn't reality I guess, not myth these days.

even thought you got a degree in sports dosen't say much, to be honest I know alot of people with degree in sports who don't know much.

and I never kept my silence in the other threads, I'm just not trying to hi-jack every thread we decide to have a discussion in.

and who cares if bigs or marcus gives me a warning? you gonna go at mc Donalds and celebrate with your friends? seriously grow up.

its little assholes like you spoiling the forum, a degree means hard work, 17 yrs competitive (related) sport training is where its at. all your posts are up in the clouds imaginary rubbish, seriousily you state your bicep curling 59kgs, do you think any1 with knowledge here believes you for a second. go away and come back when YOU grow up. and stop bashing ppl for having the balls to front themselves, lets c your pic?

[barnyap]

Declan, ur so big, i wish i was like u, maybe u should just push ronnie aside and step on stage,

[dec11]

Declan, ur so big, i wish i was like u, maybe u should just push ronnie aside and step on stage,

na, not in2 bodybuilding, y dont you step a side, permanently. yap is aptly named

[barnyap]

since your mr know it all, shit might call u einstein

[dec11]

since your mr know it all, shit might call u einstein

wateva you like, i couldnt give a f**k you dogs dick. done here