2nd Cycle - HELP PLEASE

**justb0rn** · 12-22-2009, 05:26 AM

Hey Guys.

Planning on running a 2nd cycle, Although my first cycle was basically worthless and a waste (Test E - 500mg a week 10 weeks) BUT didnt get time to train much on cycl as lost job and had to move to another state, So yeah was a complete waste. ANYWAYS looking to start a new cycle in a few weeks time.

Stats
Male, 26
200lb
6''
BF - no idea.

Been training on and off for 4-5 years. Now i was wanting to run Prop for 6-8 weeks but after reading alot of posts in forums, it may not be the best to run on its own for a bulking cycle? right or wrong? I am looking to increase strength and add some muscle mass. What would be the best possible cycle, if you could have any AAS, what would be the best for SIZE/STRENGTH? And a quick ester....

Prop and Tren
Prop and NPP
Prop and Dbol
Prop and Anabol

Or maybe not prop?? Need some advice please. Open to any suggestions.

Thanks

PT · 12-22-2009, 05:42 AM

for your 2nd cycle and since your bulking i would reccomend test cyp or enth over the everyday prop injections. deca and test is best for bulking but if you want you can just run 12 weeks of test with d-bol or anadrol . if your dead stuck on prop then you can go for 8 weeks of prop shot ed alond with 5-6 weeks of d-bol

**darr** · 12-22-2009, 05:48 AM

PT is right i would go with cyp, enanthe for 1-12wk dbol1-5wk tmo!

**BJJ** · 12-22-2009, 06:03 AM

I would first know my bf, which is an important factor.
"BF - no idea" shows me you are not ready to cycle.

**Mooseman33** · 12-22-2009, 08:19 AM

prop is great to bulk with and cut with.

can do either, based on ur diet bro..

listen to PT.

**yungone501** · 12-22-2009, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by BJJ

I would first know my bf, which is an important factor.
"BF - no idea" shows me you are not ready to cycle.

X2

Why are you wanting to cycle if it could be potentially hazardous? Check your BF% man.

**RANA** · 12-22-2009, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

prop is great to bulk with and cut with.

can do either, based on ur diet bro..

listen to PT.

Agree^^^
Listen to PT

**justb0rn** · 12-23-2009, 06:52 PM

Thanks for the info.... Might go with the Test E OR sus 250 shot twice a week with 30mg dbol ED for the first 4 weeks? thinking :

1-4 : Dbol 30mg
1-12 : Test e , 600mg weekly. ??

OR
1-4 : Dbol 30mg ed
1-12 Sus250 - 500mg weekly ??

PCT - Nolva

Will 4weeks of dbol @ 30mg be enough? or would you go with the Anadrol 50mg ED ? I just heard Anadrol makes you feel like shit thats all? But i suppose this differs from person to person. Just dont want to waste money on it and then not be able to take it. Any more info peoples much appreciated, Which cycle would be better for Mass gains/strength?
Cheers folks.

**justb0rn** · 12-25-2009, 02:07 AM

bump...

**RANA** · 12-25-2009, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by justb0rn

Thanks for the info.... Might go with the Test E OR sus 250 shot twice a week with 30mg dbol ED for the first 4 weeks? thinking :

1-4 : Dbol 30mg
1-12 : Test e , 600mg weekly. ??

OR
1-4 : Dbol 30mg ed
1-12 Sus250 - 500mg weekly ??

PCT - Nolva

Will 4weeks of dbol @ 30mg be enough? or would you go with the Anadrol 50mg ED ? I just heard Anadrol makes you feel like shit thats all? But i suppose this differs from person to person. Just dont want to waste money on it and then not be able to take it. Any more info peoples much appreciated, Which cycle would be better for Mass gains/strength?
Cheers folks.

You need to add clomid for your pct. other then that you shold be fine