Dbol kicker and Test E

[LeroyB]

I know it is common practice to run Dbol as a kicker for long esters like Test E. I belive the logic is that the Test E (assuming you are shooting lets say 250 twice a week for a total of 500) takes about 14 days to peak in your body. The 14 days also holds true for coming off thus why after your last shot of Test E you wait 14 days before starting your PCT.

Here is my questions:
If its takes 14 days for your Test E to kick, why run Dbol longer than 14 days? Wouldn't it be more prudent to just run it for 12 or 14 days then run on pure Test E.

I often see people recomending Dbol for 2 -4 and even 6 weeks as a kicker and that seems very off.
Thanks!

[Little Herc]

If u have some why not run it? The only reason why u stop is because its an oral and u don't wanna have to get a liver transplant in the near future.

[RANA]

there is a reason it's called a kicker. People injecting a long ester want results ASAP and it wont happen like that, this is why they take a kicker for approximately 4 weeks and by that time your test should have already effecting you body in a positive way.

[Aizen Sosuke]

If you want 4lbs of water rentention per week in the early stage of your cycle then dbol or drol are for you. I don't get why people can't wait 2-3 weeks at most for results to show up.

[Hard.On]

If you want 4lbs of water rentention per week in the early stage of your cycle then dbol or drol are for you. I don't get why people can't wait 2-3 weeks at most for results to show up.

Where do people get this from. for someone with over 500 posts I would think that he or she should know more about D-bol.

[Critical Mass]

^ Funny. But dbol does give you some bloat.

[Hard.On]

^ Funny. But dbol does give you some bloat.

Agreed. But it has many benefits and works very well when used properly.
I just hate when people rag on it b/c they didnt use it right or dont know enough

[Critical Mass]

I hear ya. I love d-bol and think its great. Let the others do the winny and t-bol..

[LeroyB]

Correct me if I am wrong but if you run Dbol as a kicker longer than 2 weeks you are doing more with it than kickstarting. For a person that runs the kickers for weeks 1 - 4 will see thier highest levels in weeks 3 and 4 and then fall down from there to a baseline for the rest of the cycle.
Far as bloat - yes have it now, don't like it.

[Aizen Sosuke]

Where do people get this from. for someone with over 500 posts I would think that he or she should know more about D-bol.

My post count doesn't correlate with the amount of knowledge I may posses, which to be honest is very little. I have not used dbol myself. I speak from 2 friends of mine and the vast majority of logs on this forum. In 3 weeks they have gained 10-15lbs, and about 80% is water, If you like to kickstart with orals then do so by all means. If your opinion differs from mine then please show me otherwise on your next dbol cycle, who knows you might make a believer out of me and I'd give it a try.

[TITANIUM]

there is a reason it's called a kicker. People injecting a long ester want results ASAP and it wont happen like that, this is why they take a kicker for approximately 4 weeks and by that time your test should have already effecting you body in a positive way.

Agreed.^^^^^^^^^^^^

Best

T

[RANA]

My post count doesn't correlate with the amount of knowledge I may posses, which to be honest is very little. I have not used dbol myself. I speak from 2 friends of mine and the vast majority of logs on this forum. In 3 weeks they have gained 10-15lbs, and about 80% is water, If you like to kickstart with orals then do so by all means. If your opinion differs from mine then please show me otherwise on your next dbol cycle, who knows you might make a believer out of me and I'd give it a try.

I agree, it's been a while since I have seen Aizen but he has put out some good info in the past

[hankdiesel]

I know it is common practice to run Dbol as a kicker for long esters like Test E. I belive the logic is that the Test E (assuming you are shooting lets say 250 twice a week for a total of 500) takes about 14 days to peak in your body. The 14 days also holds true for coming off thus why after your last shot of Test E you wait 14 days before starting your PCT.

Here is my questions:
If its takes 14 days for your Test E to kick, why run Dbol longer than 14 days? Wouldn't it be more prudent to just run it for 12 or 14 days then run on pure Test E.

I often see people recomending Dbol for 2 -4 and even 6 weeks as a kicker and that seems very off.
Thanks!

It takes longer for test E to reach it's peak than 14 days. Week six or so is when your blood levels reach their peak. Dbol gives you more than bloat. It kickstarts your strength gains.

[Ashop]

I know it is common practice to run Dbol as a kicker for long esters like Test E. I belive the logic is that the Test E (assuming you are shooting lets say 250 twice a week for a total of 500) takes about 14 days to peak in your body. The 14 days also holds true for coming off thus why after your last shot of Test E you wait 14 days before starting your PCT.

Here is my questions:
If its takes 14 days for your Test E to kick, why run Dbol longer than 14 days? Wouldn't it be more prudent to just run it for 12 or 14 days then run on pure Test E.

I often see people recomending Dbol for 2 -4 and even 6 weeks as a kicker and that seems very off.
Thanks!

Your really right, You would only need it for a few weeks. 3 wks is often plenty. Many like to run orals until they feel they have recieved the full MAX effect of the drug.

[Hamma Head]

I like dbol, and so what if it gives you a little bloat. The strength gains are well worth it, just keep your diet in check and dont eat like a pig!

[El Corvino]

My post count doesn't correlate with the amount of knowledge I may posses, which to be honest is very little. I have not used dbol myself. I speak from 2 friends of mine and the vast majority of logs on this forum. In 3 weeks they have gained 10-15lbs, and about 80% is water, If you like to kickstart with orals then do so by all means. If your opinion differs from mine then please show me otherwise on your next dbol cycle, who knows you might make a believer out of me and I'd give it a try.

Please don't speak about it if you haven't used it. Your information is quite incorrect claiming that 80% is water retention. I am coming off yet another run of it and have had AMAZING results again. Each time I have run it I gained just over 20 lbs. These were 4 and 5 week runs. I bloated up but only lost about 4 lbs of water after I ended the cycle. I eat very clean and train harder than the next guy so I retained the muscle gains.

Run your gear properly, Eat properly, Train properly and you shall receive good results.

[HustlerBrah]

Personally i'm never running d-bol again,

first cycle i did was test prop plus d-bol

from my own experience:

d-bols gains are MOSTLY water and pretty much aren't maintainable..(from my experience)

[El Corvino]

Exactly my point... you can read the profiles and see what they are meant to do. Different things react differently in peoples bodies.

Me and my boy took Tren X. He had massive gains and kept most of them (strength and size) and even got gyno from it. I on the other hand saw NO major gains in strength or size... only thing I got from it was acne which is now subsiding.

Try it your first cycle and see how you like it. Some people hate it some people love it. some people prefer anadrol to it some people will never touch anadrol again. It all depends on how YOUR body reacts to it.

[El Corvino]

oh, and if you are not ready to accept the water retention for a few weeks... then don't even start it. My boy started D-bol and after the first week he hated the water retention so he started doing 40 mg every Wednesday for 4 weeks? the most retarded way to hurt yourself is to start experimenting. Make a plan and a back up plan and stick to it. Know the consequences.