yeah yeah we all hate newbs, im no stranger to working out ect though. Heres the rundown, im 5'11" about 160lbs, been working out since middle school and im 26 in a week. the heaviest ive ever been was about 170, my problem is that no matter what i take(OTC products) or how much i lift i just cant get big. recently ive been looking into trying a few cycles to help me out, i never wanted to be a juice head or need to have products run my life. there are soo many products available so my question is simply what would you recomend as a beginer cycle and something that wont require a second job to afford? i dont want to go crazy and have alot of side effects either. I would like to stay as lean as possible also. TIA