Ever heard of someone not recovering after one cycle?

**vaders4** · 12-26-2009, 01:35 PM

What are the odds that one light cycle (10-12wks 500mg test e or c a week) will prevent you from 100% recovering?

By recovering I mean:
Testicles return to 100% normal size
Sex drive is 100% prior to cycle

A friend of mine was running 750mg of sust for about 14 weeks, it was his first cycle.

He ran proper PCT, but he's been done with PCT for about a month now and he's complaining that his sex drive is not what it was, and his testicles are not 100% back to their normal size.

This somewhat concerns me, although he did run a pretty high dose of sust for a first time cycle, and he ran it for a while.

Has anyone ever heard of 1 cycle, followed by PROPER PCT ruining your sex drive forever?

**gymnerd** · 12-26-2009, 01:38 PM

He should go get blood work done only way to tell for sure anything else is just guess work. It can take longer for some to recover than others.

**Dont wanna be old** · 12-26-2009, 01:53 PM

That is reason AAS should be given the respect it deserves .

Some people use hcg during cycle if they had testicle failure .
Then when pct is started , your not reviving them and trying to get natural production at same time .

Aromasin might compliment the PCT or be used for current therapy for 4 weeks .
The doctor can help best .

**charlesriley** · 12-26-2009, 02:53 PM

yeh, use hcg

**marcus300** · 12-26-2009, 03:22 PM

Blood work before the cycle and again a few months after PCT will tell you if you have fully recovered.

He hasnt fully recovered yet if his sex drive hasnt come back, alot of people take alot longer than 4 weeks to fully recover.

Yes, I have know plenty of guys who have never gain full function of their HPTA after a cycle.

**Bossman** · 12-26-2009, 05:10 PM

A friend at my gym (22 yrs old) ran one cycle with test/tren and last I knew was still on HRT. His PCT included HCG , Nolva and adex. After many visits with his DR he's now on HRT. Too bad for such a young age.

**gymnerd** · 12-26-2009, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by cgb6810

A friend at my gym (22 yrs old) ran one cycle with test/tren and last I knew was still on HRT. His PCT included HCG, Nolva and adex. After many visits with his DR he's now on HRT. Too bad for such a young age.

Damn, that really sucks.

**vaders4** · 12-26-2009, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Blood work before the cycle and again a few months after PCT will tell you if you have fully recovered.

He hasnt fully recovered yet if his sex drive hasnt come back, alot of people take alot longer than 4 weeks to fully recover.

Yes, I have know plenty of guys who have never gain full function of their HPTA after a cycle.

Even after a FIRST cycle??

**stevey_6t9** · 12-26-2009, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by cgb6810

A friend at my gym (22 yrs old) ran one cycle with test/tren and last I knew was still on HRT. His PCT included HCG, Nolva and adex. After many visits with his DR he's now on HRT. Too bad for such a young age.

luck wasnt on his side. my experience 9/10 guys i know have recovered after there first cycle HPTA wise.

**vaders4** · 12-26-2009, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by stevey_6t9

luck wasnt on his side. my experience 9/10 guys i know have recovered after there first cycle HPTA wise.

Well I'm going to run 250iu (2x a week) with my cycle, then a proper PCT so lets hope for the best.

**marcus300** · 12-27-2009, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by vaders4

Even after a FIRST cycle??

Yes,some people are very sensitive to hormones and seem to have complication even after their first cycle

**TITANIUM** · 12-27-2009, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Yes,some people are very sensitive to hormones and seem to have complication even after their first cycle

True........................

Best

T

**vaders4** · 12-27-2009, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Yes,some people are very sensitive to hormones and seem to have complication even after their first cycle

What are some signs of being very sensitive to hormones?

If I am one of those sensitive people, could I cut my dose in half from 500mg to 250mg - would that help or once I start I'm pretty much in it for the long haul?

**TITANIUM** · 12-27-2009, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by vaders4

What are some signs of being very sensitive to hormones?

If I am one of those sensitive people, could I cut my dose in half from 500mg to 250mg - would that help or once I start I'm pretty much in it for the long haul?

No, cutting the doses won't work.

If you are sensitive, then the common estro sides would be seen.

Blood work is the only true way of determining any of this.

Best

T

**marcus300** · 12-27-2009, 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by vaders4

What are some signs of being very sensitive to hormones?

If I am one of those sensitive people, could I cut my dose in half from 500mg to 250mg - would that help or once I start I'm pretty much in it for the long haul?

You can't tell beforehand if your going to have issues with your natural Testosterone after you have cycled, cutting down the mg per week isnt going to do nothing, even a very low dose 50mgs-100mgs will shut your HPTA.

If you are cycling before your HPTA isnt fully devloped then the chances of problems increase drasticly,

**El Corvino** · 12-27-2009, 03:15 AM

damn you are paranoid. LoL

I did not get gyno off any cycle (yet) including my current one after 5 weeks of 75 mg of Dbol and test... or my previous one of 8 weeks of Tren X...

Yet my boy who is older and been in the gym longer than I have did over the counter Tren X and got gyno. Its like playing Russian roulette man... some people are lucky and some are not remotely...