BANGORANG 3rd Cycle Log

[bangorang]

Hi,

I am new to this site but have been a member on some other boards... Here is some history on me and some stats....
Age: 27
Ht: 6'2"
Wt: 215
BF %: 8-9 %BF
Training for 11 years
Previous cycle #1 test dbol...10 weeks...PCT Clomid and Nolva
Previous cycle #2 dbol test eq anavar 12 weeks... anavar last 4 + throught PCT....PCT Clomid nolva, HCG.... also did HCG 250 iu 2 x per week during cycle


GOALS:

Add LBM while some fat burn due to diet....

:::Proposed Cycle::::
Week 1-4 Dbol 50 mg/day
Week 1-2 Test Cyp Front Load 750mg/wk
Week 2-14 Test Cyp 500mg/wk
Week 1-2 EQ Frontload 750mg / wk
Week 2-14 EQ 600mg/wk
Week 6-18 50mg/day Proviron
:::PCT:::
Not sure if I want to run HCG during Cycle again..??
If not will use it all at end... Comments reccomendations?

-hCG: 1500iu E4D, 3 doses total, from day 1
-Week 1: Nolva 40mg/day; Clomid 100mg/day
-Week 2: Nolva 30mg/day; Clomid 50mg/day
-Week 3: Nolva 20mg/day; Clomid 50mg/day
-Week 4-6: Nolva 10mg/day

Program borrowed from here
http://www.freakzonline.com/forums/s...d.php?t=143773


Looking for guidance
-Would also like to know when you all would think PCT shoudl be started at 2 weeks after or how so?
-Would love more comments on the proviron....
-HCG opinions....
-Anythink you want

Will post pics later...

Thank you all for your help,

BANGORANG

[bangorang]

bump

[CHUCKYthentic]

cycle look set up pretty good, could use a few adjustments

-do not frontload, WASTE of time IMO. that dbol in the beginning will serve as a great kickstart. are u doing so for that purpose or blood levels?

-run the cyp 1 week past the EQ. EQ has a slightly longer half life. start PCT about 16 days after last shot of test cyp

-HCG... well you have a few options here. you could run it the extent of the cycle at 125-250iu E3D, that would be you best option IMO. or you could run it at the end of the cycle, last few weeks before start of PCT. you ll want to stop HCG a week before start of PCT

-PCT looks set up ok, extend clomid to week 4 50 or 25mg ED. could go 5 with the nolva if you feel it necessary. no need for 6 weeks with that length of cycle

-as for proviron. personally not a fan of it, so thats all ill say. let someone else shed some light there

-have u been gyno prone in your past cycles? if so definitely run an AI like Arimidex on cycle. personally i think you should anyway if you re gonna use HCG... low dose should serve you fine, your choice here

-if you opt not to use an AI on cycle then you def need one in your PCT, adex or aromasin

-some liv52 after your dbol would be a good choice too

[bangorang]

yes i was thinkiing of front loading for blood levels....

i did run hcg the protocol u are talking about kind of worried about desensitizing....

gotcha on the clomid

no gyno prone

Anyone got some feedback for the proviron and synergy effect with it

[CHUCKYthentic]

ya i hear you on the decensitizing worries. shouldnt be a problem, based on research, but im leary of it too

if anything you could start it week 6 or 7 when your balls are prob gonna really start to shrink

[corsa5000]

i wouldnt bother with this 750 frontloading thing on the test? i see no good case for this really, unless you keep the dose at 750 throughout the cycle

[CHUCKYthentic]

well hes wanting to do it to get blood levels stable fast. then again, frontloading like that is gonna mess with em at 1st then they re gonna be stable so....

i dont necessarily agree with it either, nor am I sure if i believe it really works and that its beneficial

proper way to frontload is double your amount by the way. so would be 1000mg and you re "suppose" to do it as many days as the half life of the ester

[bangorang]

:::Proposed Cycle::::
Week 1-4 Dbol 50 mg/day
Week 1-16 Test Cyp 625mg/wk
Week 1-15 EQ 600mg/wk
Week 6-18 50mg/day Proviron

-HCG Wk 7- 17 250iu E3D

-Week 1: Nolva 40mg/day; Clomid 100mg/day
-Week 2: Nolva 30mg/day; Clomid 50mg/day
-Week 3: Nolva 20mg/day; Clomid 50mg/day
-Week 4-6: Nolva 10mg/day

Program borrowed from here
http://www.freakzonline.com/forums/s...d.php?t=143773


Thinking of throwing some tren or masteron in there somehow... suggestions dosages time?

ADVICE?????

[TITANIUM]

:::Proposed Cycle::::
Week 1-4 Dbol 50 mg/day
Week 1-16 Test Cyp 625mg/wk
Week 1-15 EQ 600mg/wk
Week 6-18 50mg/day Proviron

-HCG Wk 7- 17 250iu E3D

-Week 1: Nolva 40mg/day; Clomid 100mg/day
-Week 2: Nolva 30mg/day; Clomid 50mg/day
-Week 3: Nolva 20mg/day; Clomid 50mg/day
-Week 4-6: Nolva 10mg/day

Program borrowed from here
http://www.freakzonline.com/forums/s...d.php?t=143773


Thinking of throwing some tren or masteron in there somehow... suggestions dosages time?

ADVICE?????

I'm not a fan of EQ.

You could dump that and add the mast instead, but this is of course, up to you.

Prov works well, and will help you.

As far as the incorporation of tren, it works very well with Mast.

Mast, tren, and test is a beautiful "synergistic" stack.

Chucky has the rest rapped up (as usual)!

Best

T

[bangorang]

Hmmmm what would be some of your suggestions for the tren and masteron combo.... i am just worried about the sides of those compounds to be honest.... i know the acetate would be better to monitor sides... but i am not prone to any not even mpb..... so i would like to run the enethanate versions..... any dosages and times for those compounds?


Thanks alot

[DS21]

It doesn't sound as if you have run tren before? If you haven't, start at a low dose and increase if needed.

[bangorang]

no i have not only my third cycle

[DS21]

If you use tren, I would start around 350-400mg/wk and increase it if you need to.

[bangorang]

This is the final proposed cycle bros, it is on its way as we speak, cant wait to start and see what new limits I can push my body to. I will update log as more of a diary and workout log, also if I need help on some side-effects I will be looking for insight here. Thank you for all your help and look forward to your input on this journey.

:::Proposed Cycle::::
Week 1-4 Dbol 50 mg/day
Week 1-16 Test Cyp 750mg/wk
Week 1-14 EQ 750mg/wk
Week 6-18 50mg/day Proviron

:::PCT:::
-hCG: 250 iu e3ds during cycle... When should i stop?
-Week 1: Nolva 40mg/day; Clomid 100mg/day
-Week 2: Nolva 30mg/day; Clomid 50mg/day
-Week 3: Nolva 20mg/day; Clomid 50mg/day
-Week 4-6: Nolva 10mg/day


Stay tuned...

[in2shape]

stop your hcg the week you have your last test shot imo ..... noticed youve extended out cycle till 16 weeks and eq 14 im assuming youve heard ppl say run it 14 , i had a mate do 12 and had great gains so have others on here .... no harm in doing eq 12 test 14 weeks imo ....still a solid cycle , thats a long time on if u include pct time your gonna be on for 6months !!!!! have a think about it id revise ..... if you dont wanna waste the last 2 weeks gear youve got IF u drop cycle down a bit .... frontload as u said earlier 4 the sake of blood levels , id normally say dont but youve ran both chems b4 so y not ..... or a little extra ommf so to speak in the middle wouldnt hurt


pct
nolva 20/20/10/10/10
clomid 100/50/50/50

good luck

[bangorang]

got yah bro thanks for the advice... your right 16 is long i will look into the frontload and reevaluate the doses.. when should i stop the proviron is it ok to run during the 2 weeks between PCT and last injection or stop maybe a week before... any input?

[FCVtec]

I think 16 week cycles are a lil long but not 2 much, gains from week 12 - 16 are pretty solid. I recover pretty fast so I can't speak for everyone but my last cycle was 16 weeks and I recovered fine. Had great gains on the last 4 weeks of it.