Test-E First Cycle Question

[ConcreteMittens]

Hello everyone,
I’m getting ready to start order my gear for my first cycle and after research I still have couple of questions regarding my proposed cycle.

Stats:
26
6’1
240
Bf is around 15%

I’ve been working out for 7 years now and have been taking NO Explode pre-workout and either Myozene or Nitro-tech for post workout for about the past 9 months.

Cycle:
Week 1-10 test e 250mg x2 week

I also want to run something like anavar or winstrol instead of dbol b/c I’m doing this for cutting and from what I have read I believe one of those would be better than dbol

PCT:
Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

My questions are as follows. 1) I have read that it would be best to also incorporate HCG during the cycle but I really can’t find how much to take per week and how often for taking. 2) I was planning on taking 20-40mg of either the anavar or winstrol ED but should I only take it for the first 4 weeks like the one with dbol suggest or should I extend it over a longer period of time? 3) Since I doing this for cutting and test e cause water retention I read on another post to take an AI during the cycle to combat this, if true which would be the best and how much should I be taking? 4) Lastly should I stop taking the NO explode during my cycle and just resume during PCT or does it not matter?

Please feel free to critique my cycle as I want to be as effective as possible
Thank You for your help, hopefully I will be an equally contributing member as time moves forward.

[number28]

i would also want to know so im subscribing to this thread. i was initally planning on taking test e as well but decided to change over to prop for its less likly to produce the bloated look. best of luck bud, ur the right place!!!

[FlyingIllini]

I would not add any other steroids to your first cycle. I am doing 400mg/wk, and am up from 235 lbs to 265 lbs after only 7 weeks (first cycle). Arms up close to a full inch, chest up 2.5 inches. See how you do with just test.

[redz]

I am going to throw a twist into this and suggest that if you are going to run either anavar or winny it would be better to run it the last 4 weeks of the cycle to give you the harder leaner look. Adex isnt great in pct with nolva as is can actually reduce the effectiveness of the nolva. Nolva and Clomid should suffice, if you want to run an ai aromasin is another option. HCG isnt necessary but does help, for a simple test cycle but I dont think I would bother. I would also suggest running the test an extra 2 weeks like this:

weeks:
1-12 Test E 500mg/week split in 2 injects
11-14 Winny 50mg ed

PCT
15-18
Clomid (50,50,25,25)
Nolva (40,40,20,20)

Keep the AI on hand but don`t run it unless you get bad sides.

[LeroyB]

First cycle should be Test E or some other test (Prop if you want to inject every other day). You can run a dbol kicker if you really want to see results in a few days. But Test E @ about 500 a week is a perfect cycle to start with. I wouldn't add anything to it.

[TITANIUM]

First cycle should be Test E or some other test (Prop if you want to inject every other day). You can run a dbol kicker if you really want to see results in a few days. But Test E @ about 500 a week is a perfect cycle to start with. I wouldn't add anything to it.

Yup.^^^

Clomid=100/50/50/50

Nolva = 40/20/20/20.

Adex for AI if needed.

Best

T

[bigpapabuff]

the clomid nolva and adex should be all you need, good luck with the first cycle.

[ConcreteMittens]

Thanks for the input guys. So is cutting or bulking on a test e only cycle mostly determined by just the diet? Is there anything extra i can do during the cycle to help cut down water weight or is the really not as prominent as i thought it would be?

[darkcrayz]

Thanks for the input guys. So is cutting or bulking on a test e only cycle mostly determined by just the diet? Is there anything extra i can do during the cycle to help cut down water weight or is the really not as prominent as i thought it would be?

the AI will help with water retention. most gains are determined by diet.

[LeroyB]

Thanks for the input guys. So is cutting or bulking on a test e only cycle mostly determined by just the diet? Is there anything extra i can do during the cycle to help cut down water weight or is the really not as prominent as i thought it would be?

Your 100% about the diet comment.
If you feel yourself bloating start your AI.
Done.

[Kibble]

To answer your question about hCG:

Order two 5,000iu amps of hCG.
Order 2 sterile vials, and at least 20ml of Bac water
Order quite a bit of U100 Insulin Pins

Take 1ml of Bac water, and add to the amp of hCG powder. Extract that ML, and put it into a 10ml vial. Add 9 more ML of Bac water into the vial. Shake well, then put the completed solution in the fridge. Draw 50iu solution in the slin pin. Shoot that sub-q every three-four days, for 250iu hCG.
After 30-40 days, do the same process with the other 10ml sterile vial, and the other 5,000iu amp of hCG.

[ConcreteMittens]

Thank you for the replies. I'll keep you guys posted on how it turns out, but feel free to continue to add input if you see there is an area of need

[Kibble]

Get hCG (IMO), and do what I typed above^

[ConcreteMittens]

Yea i hadn't seen you posted that while i was typing that last question... nothing like the edit button