Var or Winny or Halo???

[laduem88]

Im currently running:

test p: 75mg ed
masteron: 75mg ed


I was debating between var or winny and now im thinking possibly halo. my goal is strength/hardness/cutting (cycle is suppose to be a recomp cycle). anyways im leaning towards var bacause i could run it for 6-8 weeks and i could only run halo for 4 weeks maybe 6 tops since its very toxic.

Dosages that id run the compound if i decided on it:

winny: 50mg....(maybe up it 75mg depending how i feel)

anavar: 100mg

halo: 20-30mg



what do you guys think? iv done var before but have never done winny or halo. i feel winny wouldn't be good because of the strength factor and how it drys your joints out.. Halo would be good but its very toxic/expensive....and var is great because i could run it longer since its not as hard on the body but its expensive which isnt a problem

[LeroyB]

I have been digging for info on Halo hard but it seems to be quite a bit under the radar here. So I am just eating popcorn and waiting to see what people say, especially anyone with Halo experience.

[ranging1]

id side away from halo since its a strength compound

or a pre contest drug just used to give that little bit extra hardness, wouldnt really use it alwise

id choose between winnie and var

ud prob just have to weigh the 2 against each other and decide what ur looking for

personaly id go var just coz its less liver toxic and will give some strength gains

winnie will prob give a better appearance on muscles, fat burning properties compared to var i wouldnt say differ hugely, and it wouldnt yeald as good strength gains as var would IMO, winnie would be more liver toxic then var

i guess its what u want more, i personaly think ur better off with var

[laduem88]

I have been digging for info on Halo hard but it seems to be quite a bit under the radar here. So I am just eating popcorn and waiting to see what people say, especially anyone with Halo experience.

yea same, i dont compete in anything but I love getting down to 7-8% bf and still being able to deadlift 500+ and get strength gains and it seems halo would be perfect for it...maybe just say forget the orals and go with tren ace, since im already doing ed injections

[laduem88]

id side away from halo since its a strength compound

or a pre contest drug just used to give that little bit extra hardness, wouldnt really use it alwise

id choose between winnie and var

ud prob just have to weigh the 2 against each other and decide what ur looking for

personaly id go var just coz its less liver toxic and will give some strength gains

winnie will prob give a better appearance on muscles, fat burning properties compared to var i wouldnt say differ hugely, and it wouldnt yeald as good strength gains as var would IMO, winnie would be more liver toxic then var

i guess its what u want more, i personaly think ur better off with var

yea, i think il go with var...but im starting to consider tren ace...iv ran tren before but it was underdosed

[laduem88]

anyone? im still debating on what to choose. its between halo or var

[christhepimp450]

I would run the var first to see how you like it.I ran on my last cycle and var did me well.Look at the bad sides for both and see what you think.

[james21]

No var, I would do winny

[laduem88]

I would run the var first to see how you like it.I ran on my last cycle and var did me well.Look at the bad sides for both and see what you think.

yea i ran var before and liked it, just reading up on halo makes me so interested as far as the strength gains and hardness it gives you.

[doctorb325]

I briefly added Winstrol to the end of my first cycle. my blood work about three weeks later showed a horrible drop in HDL and a sharp rise in LDL cholesterol. And the words horrible and sharp are kind of understatements, my HDL was almost in the single digits and my LDL could have been diagnosed as atherosclerosis. The only other compound being used was Test, and all my labs had come back in the normal range prior to starting the winny. Needless to say, I discontinued it and will never take winstrol again.

Anavar gets my vote as well. Sure, it's expensive, but IMHO the price isn't too high for a clean bill of health.

[laduem88]

I briefly added Winstrol to the end of my first cycle. my blood work about three weeks later showed a horrible drop in HDL and a sharp rise in LDL cholesterol. And the words horrible and sharp are kind of understatements, my HDL was almost in the single digits and my LDL could have been diagnosed as atherosclerosis. The only other compound being used was Test, and all my labs had come back in the normal range prior to starting the winny. Needless to say, I discontinued it and will never take winstrol again.

Anavar gets my vote as well. Sure, it's expensive, but IMHO the price isn't too high for a clean bill of health.

well its between var and halo and there both expensive...both these compounds give a great look when your low in bodyfat so im mainly looking at strength gains and keeping those strength gains most importantly

[wharton]

wini & mast are both DHT steroids and have the same sort of effect so no point running the 2 side by side. I would add VAR for pumps and hardness. Halo quite toxic wouldnt even bother running it unless your after pure strengh gains.

[laduem88]

wini & mast are both DHT steroids and have the same sort of effect so no point running the 2 side by side. I would add VAR for pumps and hardness. Halo quite toxic wouldnt even bother running it unless your after pure strengh gains.

yea winny is out of the picture

but here are the pros and cons to both that im seeing:

Var

pros
-decent strength gains
-hardness
-pumps
-can run it up to 8 weeks
-not that toxic

Halo

pros
-Strength gains
-Hardness

cons
-Toxic
-can only run it for 4 weeks





keep in mind im looking for strength gains, would love to put 30+ pounds on my bench without gaining too much weight

[romo6]

I briefly added Winstrol to the end of my first cycle. my blood work about three weeks later showed a horrible drop in HDL and a sharp rise in LDL cholesterol. And the words horrible and sharp are kind of understatements, my HDL was almost in the single digits and my LDL could have been diagnosed as atherosclerosis. The only other compound being used was Test, and all my labs had come back in the normal range prior to starting the winny. Needless to say, I discontinued it and will never take winstrol again.

Anavar gets my vote as well. Sure, it's expensive, but IMHO the price isn't too high for a clean bill of health.

Yes,winstrol is one of the if not the hardest on your lipids.

[Vitruvian-Man]

Anavar @ 100 - 120mg ED will produce similar cutting / hardening effects of tren IMO.

So yah, I would either run var for 4 - 6 weeks.... or just run Tren-ace for 6 weeks @ 50mg ED (low dosage won't produce as many sides... especially if it's your first run...)

I wouldn't go w/ halo... and winstrol makes me incredibly dry, i only like running it w/ deca or NPP.

[laduem88]

Anavar @ 100 - 120mg ED will produce similar cutting / hardening effects of tren IMO.

So yah, I would either run var for 4 - 6 weeks.... or just run Tren-ace for 6 weeks @ 50mg ED (low dosage won't produce as many sides... especially if it's your first run...)

I wouldn't go w/ halo... and winstrol makes me incredibly dry, i only like running it w/ deca or NPP.

i guess var it is, iv ran tren before but im sure it was under-dosed bc i didn't get any of the sides until my last shot where i shot more than usual. plus i like having an oral in my cycles instead of 3 injectables. yea i was going to run var @ 100mg for 6 maybe 8 weeks depending on how everything goes.


my cycle with var will then look like this:

test p: weeks 1-13; 75mg ed
masteron: weeks 1-12; 75mg ed
anavar: weeks 6-13; 100mg ed

[Bossman]

If your bf is low enough halo will give you an incredible look. But it wont last. Ive only used it at the end of a prep so cant really say it gave me any more strength but at a higher bf it may.

Winny totally messes up my joints.

Var is kinda weak, but IMO the best oral of the ones listed.

[laduem88]

If your bf is low enough halo will give you an incredible look. But it wont last. Ive only used it at the end of a prep so cant really say it gave me any more strength but at a higher bf it may.

Winny totally messes up my joints.

Var is kinda weak, but IMO the best oral of the ones listed.

yea, like i stated before if i could put 30+ pounds on my bench during this cutting/recomp cycle id be happy. thats why i was thinking halo, var @ 100mg for 6-8 weeks should be good though

[Ronnie Rowland]

Winny causes severe joint problems for some so beware.