How To Use hCG want to know every ones opinon

[TheMilk]

ive been trying to figure out when to put hcg in my cycle and have read a million different answers. the profile on steroid.com says not to run it for more than a few weeks. im thinking that i will start it on week 9 of a 10 week test cycle at 500iu/eod and run it for 3 weeks total then start 20 mg/day nolvadex for another 4 weeks. sound good?

[Hazard]

Best way to run it IMO is to start it by ATLEAST week 4 for a long esther cycle..... starting by week 2 would be better. Run 250iu's 2-3 times per week..... you will be good to go.

The longer you wait..... the more you will have to do in a shorter period of time...... also - don't do more than 500iu's in one shot.

~Haz~

[TheMilk]

what week would i stop it? wouldnt continuing until the end of the cycle be too long?

[Big]

the title of the thread won't bring much help

[Hazard]

Are you using long or short esthers?

Start week 2 and take your last HCG shot when you take your last aas shot..... then wait for PCT and run pct as normal. You'll be fine.....

~Haz~

[Hazard]

the title of the thread won't bring much help

Guess i'm just a nice guy

~Haz~

[TheMilk]

i was hoping it would when i type something like hcg help no one seems to pay any attention. this hcg thing is soo confusing

[TheMilk]

thanks hazard but why does the profile say not to run it for more than a few weeks i think it said 3-4 weeks max

[TheMilk]

im using test e by the way

[Big]

some of the profile information is outdated, a lot of research has been done since.
I use hcg at 500iu/e5d when on a particularly suppressive cycle that causes atrophy, I have used it for 10 weeks with exceptional results.

[TheMilk]

ok i see. im going to be running d-bol 40mg/day for the first few weeks and possibly anavar near the end of the cycle would there be any problems running those with the hcg?

[Big]

no, no problem

[TheMilk]

what do you think about adding anavar for the last few weeks of the cycle?

[Big]

what are your stats and cycle history?

[TheMilk]

im 25 years old 220lbs 6'1" and been lifting for 5 years. this is my first cycle so i know it seems like alot but if im going to do it i want to do it right

[MR10X]

I am doin 500iu EOD and i took my first shot 3 weeks after my last test E shot.I am using it to get my own test started again.

[TheMilk]

thats why i want to take it. are you waiting to start nolva or clomid till after the hcg?

[MR10X]

I was taking Nolvadex and Clomid but i quit using that a week before i started the HCG. HCG is used to stimulate the testes to produce testerone,There is no need for Nolvadex and Clomid while your using HCG,after you finish the HCG you should let your system normalize itself without any drugs.I have done this for years and it works for me.The Nolvadex has a 6 day half life so it stays in your system for a while,the Clomid has only a short 1 day half life.

[TheMilk]

so if i start the hcg after my last test injection i shouldnt have to use the nolva unless i start to see sides?

[dec11]

I was taking Nolvadex and Clomid but i quit using that a week before i started the HCG. HCG is used to stimulate the testes to produce testerone,There is no need for Nolvadex and Clomid while your using HCG,after you finish the HCG you should let your system normalize itself without any drugs.I have done this for years and it works for me.The Nolvadex has a 6 day half life so it stays in your system for a while,the Clomid has only a short 1 day half life.

interesting, how long have you been following that protocol?

[MR10X]

If its a long ester test like test E you should wait at least 3 weeks after your last shot.Nolvadex will bind to the estrogen receptors without lowering your estrogen if you start getting gyno,so use it if you have to.

[MR10X]

interesting, how long have you been following that protocol?

since 1984,if i did short cycles 8 weeks or less i didnt use anything and let my system normalize itself.I never had a problem doing that,on longer cycles you will probably need some help like HCG. If HCG doesnt stimulate your test production Nolvadex and Clomid wont either. Also Clomid can cause gyno,its one of the side effects of it,so i would not use a high dose of it myself i use 50mg a day,and 20mg of Nolvadex.

[dec11]

so you dont use nolva or clomid?

[MR10X]

so you dont use nolva or clomid?

I was using Nolvadex and Clomid but i stopped using those when i started using HCG. The reason i was using the nolvadex and Clomid was because i was on a cycle for 3 months.HCG directly stimulates your balls to produce testerone. Nolvadex and Clomid doesnt,it stimulates production of hormones that stimulate your balls.

[dec11]

sorry op, hijacked it a bit here. maybe start a thread on this mr10x?

[TheMilk]

im trying to figure this hcg thing out. why do some people say to take it throughout a cycle and some just say take it at the end? i just want to give my body a boost to get back to normal test production and levels. would taking it the last few weeks of a cycle be the best or should i take it the entire cycle. money is an issue so if using it at the end of the cycle is a viable option then that sounds good.

[CHUCKYthentic]

i recall you saying in an earlier thread you re running a 10 weeks test e cycle with 4 weeks of dbol in the beginning correct?

IMO you have 2 options, they dont really deviate too much from 1 another

1. run the hcg throughout cycle 125-250iu e3d. take your last 2 hcg shots during the 1st week of the 14 days you re waiting to start your pct. some would say take your last hcg shot during your last test e shot

2. start hcg around week 4 or 5, when testicular atrophy starts to take over, and run it the same way as above

thing is, hcg isnt only used for testicular atrophy. it keeps your LH functioning. BUT if you do run it too long and at too high of a dose it can decensitize you. this is partially where "how to use hcg" become an argument

hope this helps you a little. haha i know its not a definite answer bro

[TITANIUM]

im trying to figure this hcg thing out. why do some people say to take it throughout a cycle and some just say take it at the end? i just want to give my body a boost to get back to normal test production and levels. would taking it the last few weeks of a cycle be the best or should i take it the entire cycle. money is an issue so if using it at the end of the cycle is a viable option then that sounds good.

HCG is cheap.

250 iu's X 2 wk during cycle.

best

T

[CHUCKYthentic]

what is your PCT gonna look like by the way?

[TITANIUM]

i recall you saying in an earlier thread you re running a 10 weeks test e cycle with 4 weeks of dbol in the beginning correct?

IMO you have 2 options, they dont really deviate too much from 1 another

1. run the hcg throughout cycle 125-250iu e3d. take your last 2 hcg shots during the 1st week of the 14 days you re waiting to start your pct. some would say take your last hcg shot during your last test e shot

2. start hcg around week 4 or 5, when testicular atrophy starts to take over, and run it the same way as above

thing is, hcg isnt only used for testicular atrophy. it keeps your LH functioning. BUT if you do run it too long and at too high of a dose it can decensitize you. this is partially where "how to use hcg" become an argument

hope this helps you a little. haha i know its not a definite answer bro

Nice to bump into ya bro!^^^

Yes, the devils in the details.

Desensitizing the L-cells is the question.

I ran it last go @ the end, this time during.

I'll have some definite info to give feedback on.

Nice to see you working the trenches!

Best

T

[CHUCKYthentic]

ya i wish i had more time to get on here man

i ran it towards the end of my last cycle too and it faired me pretty well. it was a long cycle with long esters. plan on running it throughout next go round

im all about short 8-10 week cycle now though, short esters. my theory is get in get out and get recovered. just my opinion, i hate the ~2 weeks waiting for esters to clear and start pct

[Big]

Rather than post my opinion again I'll just merge your threads...