Cutting Cycle with out injections any ideas?

**Shift850** · 01-04-2010, 01:23 PM

looking for the best cutting cycle and dosage for a cutting cycle with out injections and obv gonna do a diet also any takers on helping me out ? winnie ? t bols ? anvar ?

**LeroyB** · 01-04-2010, 01:44 PM

Please provide:
Age
Height
Weight
Body Fat
Years working out in gym
Current Workout plan
Diet

**Shift850** · 01-04-2010, 01:52 PM

age:23
height: 6"3
weight : 220lbs
Body fat: cant tell ya but around 17% id guess
about 2 years in the gym on and off no currently off thats why for the cutting cycle back in the gym
diet is pretty good lean protein and watch what i eat no cheating !

**LeroyB** · 01-04-2010, 11:24 PM

Well the first problem you have is you are a little young to try this.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398146

AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Second - your diet isnt really telling me much.
How many meals do you eat a day?
Whats in each meal?
How much water a day?

Third - Why no injections? Since this is your first cycle you would want to keep it a lot simpler - which means Test (probably Test E) .

But if you read the first point I made I would just wait.

**TITANIUM** · 01-05-2010, 12:38 AM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398146

Agreed.^^^^^^

Best

T

**burman** · 01-05-2010, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by Shift850

looking for the best cutting cycle and dosage for a cutting cycle with out injections and obv gonna do a diet also any takers on helping me out ? winnie ? t bols ? anvar ?

Winnie, tbol, anavar , your liver! hahahaha i luv this oral only stuff it never goes away i mean never ......lol

**Loaded61** · 01-05-2010, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by Shift850

looking for the best cutting cycle and dosage for a cutting cycle with out injections and obv gonna do a diet also any takers on helping me out ? winnie ? t bols ? anvar ?

no such thing

**Mr.Rose** · 01-05-2010, 01:25 AM

what about the obvious a clean diet with calorie deficient then when thats in check, maybe some clenbuterol and maybe t3?

**Loaded61** · 01-05-2010, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Rose

what about the obvious a clean diet with calorie deficient then when thats in check, maybe some clenbuterol and maybe t3?

is t3 a ph?

**Mr.Rose** · 01-05-2010, 01:45 AM

no t3 is a thyroid hormone, produced by your throid (as the name suggests), well nto directly its converted from a predecessor, t4. But BASICALLY it controls your metabolism, i say basically because there are a lot of complex biological pathways with t3.

**Bossman** · 01-05-2010, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Rose

what about the obvious a clean diet with calorie deficient then when thats in check, maybe some clenbuterol and maybe t3?

T3 is for the advanced only IMO. And clen should be taken very seriously as well.

The OP should concentrate on diet, cardio and training. He doesn't even train consistantly. He doesn't need any chemical help if he cant get the basics down.

**Mr.Rose** · 01-05-2010, 09:11 AM

Yes i agree, thats why i said diet and cardio first and then said MAYBE clen and t3, and the maybe was left open for someone like you to come in and give their opinion. And you opinion is very valid. He can leave the chemicals till he gets his diet perfect and cardio and gets his BF low naturally.