Attempting a couple cycles, need a critique.

[OldManRiver]

I am an idiot.... (edited for my own prides sake)

[OldManRiver]

Sorry forgot this

6'4
235
athelitic build
prob 14-16% BF
this help?

[OldManRiver]

Jesus! I am 31 years old

[D7M]

could you just write out your cycles here, I couldn't really read them too well on the word doc.

[OldManRiver]

Sure:
The first is an 8 week cycle. I use test/250mg week1-2, test/500mg week3-6, with a primobolan 100mg in week 5, then test/250mg week7-8

The test I am using is testosterone propionate 50mg and testosterone enanthate 200mg in every 250mg injection. My only confusion is the clomid and nolva dose. Do I need 21 days of clomid/100 and nolva/20?? I feel like I am doing a lite cycle compared to some people. Plus the side effects of clomid scare me. Realize that I would like to do the next sus cycle 24 days after the end of this cycle. Is this running the cycles too close?

THe last cycle is 24 days after the previously stated cycle which is a 6 week cycle with sus/250mg week1-2, then sus/500mg week3-5, with a deca /100mg in week4, then sus/250mg week6. Then a 21 day pct of clomid/100 and nolva/20. Again, I feel as though this is a low dose cycle, and I wonder if I need a pct at all, or what everyone thinks about these two cycles?

[feeldapump89]

The basic first cycle is Test E for 10-12 weeks at 500mgs a week. Its highly recommended that you dont run all the compounds you have planned too. Your going to get some side affects and when you introduce 2-3+ compounds from the start you are going to have a great deal of trouble finding the culprit. IMHO you have totally over shot your first cycle tone things down a bit. You will be more than happy with the gains from the suggested cycle above along with a solid diet.

[OldManRiver]

Thanks, what if I was to do a 8 week cycle that i listed above w/o the primo, can you sugest a pct. do I need one if I only go small dose and short cycle like that. I dont want to get huge, I am already pretty large, I just want to gain strength and a little more definition. I just want to make sure ill still get an erection!

[feeldapump89]

You must always run PCT after running AS! I would suggest nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 100/100/50/50 just a basic pct popular among most of the users here. I wouldnt suggest a 8 week cycle you push out the best gains between week 7-12 in my opinion. This being said run it for atleast 10 weeks. You shouldnt have any problems getting an erection with all that extra test running thru you, your real problem is keeping that bad boy down.

[OldManRiver]

Thanks

so no pyramid, just straight 500/week, mon & thurs at 250 a pop for 10 weeks straight, then wait two weeks and start clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20. Some have told me a ramp down in test at the end assists in the re-production of your own test back into the system. I've been reading so much in the past two weeks that everything seems to blend together. Whats your thoughts on clen to keep the gains? i was planning a pyramid for 21 days when I start the pct. Thanks!

[TITANIUM]

You must always run PCT after running AS! I would suggest nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 100/100/50/50 just a basic pct popular among most of the users here. I wouldnt suggest a 8 week cycle you push out the best gains between week 7-12 in my opinion. This being said run it for atleast 10 weeks. You shouldnt have any problems getting an erection with all that extra test running thru you, your real problem is keeping that bad boy down.

You may want to have an AI on hand.

Just in case.

HCG during cycle also.

You can do a short cycle, but I would run it out till 10wks.

Best

T