Help needed for cutting cycle?

[pumprobot]

Hey all, long time reader first time poster.. Just needing some advice on a tren, stanazol (same as winny) cutting cycle I'm looking at doing. Done a dianabol, anabol cycle before.

stats:
23 yr old
5"10"
78 kgs
unknown body fat

train 5 time a week, eat healthy. just looking at getting that extra edge.

Have got bottle of TRENABOL (300mgs/1ml) 10mL
Have got bottle of STANAZOL (50mgs/1ml) 20mL

also got 30 nolva 20mg tablets

I keep reading to run test with this cycle, which i will then be able to use the nolva for. just need advice as to whether the test is so appropriate to have and if not would your health shop test tablets do the trick as its a bit of hassle to get some test prop atm? Also how long and what dosages would you do for this cycle.

Thanks guys.

[D7M]

age aside, I'd seriously consider holding off on any cycle until you do alot more research, my friend.

You'll definitely want test in any cycle, and no "health shop test tablets" won't do the trick.

[Aizen Sosuke]

Ok so you cycle before dianabol and "anabol". Do you mean anadrol or anavar?Anyways did you use any form of testosterone on those cycles? If it was just the orals then please forget about tren. If possible don't cycle for a while, say a year and use that time to eat right and achieve your goals. Eating healthy is great if you want to be healthy. However if you want to build muscle then you need a bodybuilder diet. Head over to the diet forum we will assist you. Also find out your bodyfat.

[pumprobot]

i've done a heap of research but keep reading different levels of dosages all the time, and yeah i wouldn't do it without test but I've heard of others that have done cycles without it and didn't hurt them. only reason enquired about not using it was its gonna be a fair wait for it, which i'm probably better off doing now that you have pointed that out.

thanks for your advice.

[corsa5000]

but why do a cycle without test just because 'it didnt hurt them'? you wont make the best gains without test anyway so it is an important thing to include