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    The Observer is offline New Member
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    Question about first cycle tail end winstrol?

    This my first cycle of actual real steroids . I have done a few cycles of Omnevol beforehand with great results but way too short term. I am planning on doing
    the "Novice Cycle #2-1" on the front page of the site but planning to run it just a couple to a few weeks longer. I wanted to add Winstrol at the tail end of the cycle before PCT. Is that a waste? Reason I ask is because of the four weeks of d-bol that I supposed to start with, would it be irrelevent to add the winstrol let say at week 12-16 (which is how long I plan on going for). Thanks in advance for any help guys.

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    Well, first of all you should know that that cycle is really not a great cycle for a first timer.

    age?
    height?
    weight?
    body fat%?
    years training?
    pct knowledge?
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    I'm going to throw this up for other people to see. This is the "Novice cycle #2-1" the OP is referring to.

    1
    Testosterone Cypionate /400- 500 mg
    Deca /200 - 400 mg
    D-Bol/35 mg/day
    Nolvadex /10 - 20 mg/Day
    Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    2
    Testosterone Cypionate /400- 500 mg
    Deca/200 - 400 mg
    D-Bol/35 mg/day
    Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    3
    Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg
    Deca/200 - 400 mg
    D-Bol/35 mg/day
    Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    4
    Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg
    Deca/200 - 400 mg
    D-Bol/35 mg/day
    Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    5
    Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg
    Deca/200 - 400 mg
    Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    6
    Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg
    Deca/200 - 400 mg
    Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    7
    Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg
    Deca/200 - 400 mg
    Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    8
    Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg
    Deca/200 - 400 mg
    Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    9
    Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg
    Deca2300 - 400 mg
    Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    10
    Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg
    Deca/200 - 400 mg
    Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    11
    Testosterone Cypionate/400- 500 mg
    Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
    Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    12
    Nolvadex/20 mg/Day
    Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    13
    Nolvadex/20 mg/Day
    Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    14
    Clomid Therapy
    Clomid Therapy
    Nolvadex/20 mg/Day
    Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    15
    Clomid Therapy
    Clomid Therapy
    Nolvadex/20 mg/Day
    Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    16
    Clomid Therapy
    Clomid Therapy
    Nolvadex/20 mg/Day
    Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day

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    age/29
    height/ 5'9
    weight /188 lbs
    body fat%? /9-10%
    years training /1.5
    pct knowledge /only what i know online.


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    Why do you say that it's not a good cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Observer View Post
    age/29
    height/ 5'9
    weight /188 lbs
    body fat%? /9-10%
    years training /1.5
    pct knowledge /only what i know online.


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    Why do you say that it's not a good cycle?
    he didnt say it wasnt a good cycle,, just not recommended for first time users. Best to use test only for first one, thats in case you have problems with it you will know exactly what compound is causing it.

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    That might have looked a little confusing but I meant a good cycle for me as a first time user. Anyways, any more feedback would be great help.

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