1st cycle need help.

**caddyon6s** · 01-09-2010, 03:49 PM

whats good everyone new to this stuff and need some help,thinking of doing a test eth and anavar cycle.dont want to put on much size just want to get cut up and a little bigger plus i just got my bloodtest results back and my test was at 216.so can i start this cycle with my levels already low.been working out for 2 yrs.now first i weighted 297[fat ass]now i weigh 176 been goin hard in the gym for the last year.and what would be the correct pct for this cycle.
weight 176
age 33
bf%10
5ft10"
test eth weeks 1-12 250mg pw
anavar weeks 1-6 @ 40 mg ed
any
any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.
my diet is from 2500 cal a day to 3000 225 grams protien a day fish oil 1000 mg and multi vitiamen

**Dont wanna be old** · 01-09-2010, 04:02 PM

**Spartans09** · 01-09-2010, 04:03 PM

I have 2 possible thoughts for consideration. The first is to drop the anavar for another time. The second would be to up the test to 400-500 mg/week with or without the var. I would additionaly suggest having liquidex on hand to control water and estrogen. What does your pct look like?

**CHUCKYthentic** · 01-09-2010, 04:04 PM

welcome to AR, congrats on losing all that weight

that cycle could work, you could run that low of a dose.... honestly if you want to keep the dose low, id recommend at 300mg/week, split into 2 shots per week at 150mg each.

prob want to up the anavar dose to 60mg/day. stuff is expensive though

what do you know/have lined up for PCT?

diet should change now that you lost weight, will need to up the calories slightly as well as the protein...considering your goals ofcourse

**caddyon6s** · 01-09-2010, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic

welcome to AR, congrats on losing all that weight

that cycle could work, you could run that low of a dose.... honestly if you want to keep the dose low, id recommend at 300mg/week, split into 2 shots per week at 150mg each.

prob want to up the anavar dose to 60mg/day. stuff is expensive though

what do you know/have lined up for PCT?

diet should change now that you lost weight, will need to up the calories slightly as well as the protein...considering your goals ofcourse

thanks man not sure on pct hoping to get some advise is it ok to run test while my levels are low my doctor wants to put me on cyp but he sais he wanted to only give me injections once a month but that dont sound rite to me wont that mess wit my blood levels this is wat he prescribed me[cyp] 200ml per ml 10ml 2.5ml once a month.i was thinking of doin my cycle anyways before my test results came back.

**caddyon6s** · 01-09-2010, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Dont wanna be old

**c-Z** · 01-09-2010, 05:00 PM

I understand your levels are low but 250mg PW is basically a trt dose... What is the reasoning for this? Are you simply looking to run var and being that the doc wants to put you on trt anyways just run a trt dose or what?

You want size but to cut as well? Why not simply run a test e cycle 400-500mgs with var? If you run adex it will help with the bloat. As well as keep a strict clean diet and you shouldnt affect your bf% with that.....

**caddyon6s** · 01-09-2010, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by c-Z

I understand your levels are low but 250mg PW is basically a trt dose... What is the reasoning for this? Are you simply looking to run var and being that the doc wants to put you on trt anyways just run a trt dose or what?

You want size but to cut as well? Why not simply run a test e cycle 400-500mgs with var? If you run adex it will help with the bloat. As well as keep a strict clean diet and you shouldnt affect your bf% with that.....

yea i wanted to run like a trt dose cause my libidio sucks rite now an just want the test to bring my test levels back to normal and just add the var to tighten up really dont want no bloating an least side effects as possiable.does var supress test leves to some degree too.

**c-Z** · 01-09-2010, 05:17 PM

So then yeah sounds logical. I figured that was the reasoning. Especially if your docs putting you on trt... I would definitely talk to him about doing a shot a week...... Stay much more stable...

**caddyon6s** · 01-09-2010, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by c-Z

So then yeah sounds logical. I figured that was the reasoning. Especially if your docs putting you on trt... I would definitely talk to him about doing a shot a week...... Stay much more stable...

thank you sir.im not even going to get the shot thru him im just goin to start my cycle insurance wont cover the script and they want a 112 dollars for the script wats a good pct for this.

**c-Z** · 01-09-2010, 05:44 PM

nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50

i would run double dose first week.... two weeks wouldnt really be necessary unless your running a 19nor IMO. you could double it to play it safe if you want.

**caddyon6s** · 01-09-2010, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by c-Z

nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50

i would run double dose first week.... two weeks wouldnt really be necessary unless your running a 19nor IMO. you could double it to play it safe if you want.

run double dose on what the first week an running 300 mg a test a week wit 40 mg of anavar everyday would work for what i want an 12 weeks on test and 6 weeks on anavar with that pct.you been a big help thanks