clomid-only cycles?

**Exilus** · 01-10-2010, 03:03 PM

Clomid allows you to raise your natural testosterone by up to 200%, wouldn't it be considered a safe alternative to steroids in order to build natural muscle faster considering it doesn't shut you down?

**Quo** · 01-10-2010, 03:25 PM

Good question. I was also playing around with the idea of a Nolva only cycle as I try to drop about 15 pounds over the next two months. I have a small case of gyno I need to clear up and thought it might help with fat loss / muscle retention. But I have no idea if it would be a good idea or not.

**AstheticKing** · 01-10-2010, 11:05 PM

letro for this better

**Big** · 01-10-2010, 11:17 PM

Neither would be an alternative to steroids ,

**amcon** · 01-11-2010, 01:05 AM

what ? where did you get that info? bad information - i have heard of guys going on a estrogen blocker because of medical reasons and there free test increased. or going on clomid to try to jump start a faulty pituatary gland, and if that increased the test level it would have been from 100 to 300 no where near where you would like to see your test levels - 550 medically is acceptable for a active male in 30s that number would be increased for 20 year olds and 1000 wouldnt be considered over the top for either.

**Quo** · 01-11-2010, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by Big

Neither would be an alternative to steroids,

No, no, of course not. But would a short "cycle" of Chlomid or Nolva be suitable for kicking a small case of gyno and 15 pounds of weight loss? Or someone mentioned Letro.

**Quo** · 01-11-2010, 06:18 PM

Sorry to bump this, but I am pretty curious. Any ideas? Would the ARR products work well for this purpose?

**Vitruvian-Man** · 01-11-2010, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Quo

Sorry to bump this, but I am pretty curious. Any ideas? Would the ARR products work well for this purpose?

No. This would not be effective; or useful.

SERMS do not raise your free-test levels to an anabolic state whatsoever. Yes they increase test levels; however, not high enough to get the type of results you're talking about.

Get some clen if you're need to drop 15 pounds.

**Quo** · 01-11-2010, 07:41 PM

Thanks.

I am thinking about the estrogen fighting effects it may have, not the anabolic effects. Wouldn't less estrogen floating around assist with both water retention and fat loss?

And would it clear up my small case of gyno?

**Lift-Eat-Repeat** · 01-11-2010, 07:55 PM

No clomid will not clear up gyno, only Letro can reverse gyno.

**TITANIUM** · 01-11-2010, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Big

Neither would be an alternative to steroids,

YUP^^^

Best

T

**boz** · 01-12-2010, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by Lift-Eat-Repeat

No clomid will not clear up gyno, only Letro can reverse gyno.

hm shouldn't the letro be taken only when cycling, and if the case of gyno after the cycle, than treat it with clomid or nolva.

**Bonaparte** · 01-13-2010, 01:19 AM

It might work about as well as OTC test boosters/AIs like Novedex XT, but with more side effects. Besides, doubling your test has a negligible effect on muscle-building, since the body doesn't really respond dramatically to anything within or near physiological limits (i.e. doubling your test won't help 1/5 as much as increasing it 10X with 600mg of synthetic test).