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    Another first cycle critique

    Age: 29
    hieght: 5'9
    Weight: 170 (up from 140 last 8 months studying diet section)
    BF%: 10-12%
    Training: 2 years lifting, 5 years prior military workouts.
    Cycle Exp: First

    I understand that my weight is on the lower side but i am genically very thin and have worked hard to get this far, along with doing plenty of research I believe I am ready to cycle. Any suggestions appreciated.

    Week 1 - 12: Test Cyp 2 X 250mg mon/thurs
    Week 1 - 4: 30mg Dbol daily
    Week 6 - 14: 90mg Anavar daily (have on hand, undecided)
    Week 11 - 14: HCG 2 X 500 iu weekly

    PCT: Clomid 100/100/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/20/20
    L-Dex 0.5mg EOD

    DIET: From my research I am satisfied with the meal combinations that contain Pro, Carbs and Fat rather than pro/fat, pro/carb as our bodies are designed to handle this comination and my results so far show that my body accepts it well.

    Meal 1: 5:30am
    4 x egg white (+ 2 full egs) pro 27g/carb 2g/fat 5g Calories: 247
    1 scoop whey protien: pro 22g/carb 27g/fat 2g calories: 215
    1.5 cup oats 110g: Pro 14g/Carb 62g/Fat 10g calories 416

    Meal 2: 8:30am
    Smoked chicken breast: Pro 77g/fat 9g Calories: 410
    Fish oil 10ml

    Meal 3: 11:30am
    Wholegrain pasta 50g : Pro 13g/Carb 35g/Fat 1.5g Calories 177
    Lean beef with sauce 100g: Pro 27g/Carb 5g/Fat 15g Calories: 190

    Meal 4: 3:00pm
    Tuna 300g whole grain crackers: Pro 56g/Carb 45g/Fat 35g Calories: 745

    WORKOUT: 6:00pm

    Meal 6: 7:00pm PWO
    Shake : Pro 65g/Carb 80g/Fat 7g Calories:650

    Meal 7: 8:00pm
    Chicken Breast 250g: Pro 77g/Carb 0/Fat 9g Calories 410
    Brown rice: Pro 10g/Carb 86g/Fat 8g Calories 472

    MEAL 8: 9:30pm
    Caesin protien, night time 1 scoop: Pro 36g/Carb 3g

    TOTAL: Protien: 412g Carbs: 345g Fat: 100g
    Total Calories: 4033

    Cheers
    Gonzo
    Last edited by gonzo6183; 01-12-2010 at 08:25 PM.

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    Either do the dbol or anavar but not both. I would prefer var but that's just personal preference given I hate water retention, and if you go with var then 60mg should suffice.
    I prefer the PCT dosage to be a little lower, something like this
    50/50/50/50
    20/20/20/20
    I like the HCG , some start it earlier in the cycle at a lower dosage but that's really your call, either way you will recover faster.

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    Bump for any mroe advice

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    HCG probably wont be necessary, its not a very heavy cycle, but your call.

    like Aizen said dont do two orals. i like var, but most first timers complain thst they dont "feel" anything till week 4-6. so i would suggest kick starting with the dbol to make you happy, and save a "is my gear fake/when does test kick in" thread later.

    if you gained 30lbs in 8 months why not stick with it for alittle longer and see if you can tack on another 10 or 20lbs natty?


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    First cycle :
    I recommend no anavar or d-bol .

    You will do great with the test .

    The reason I believe straight test is enough :
    The slower increase in strength is safer .
    Once your muscles , tendons and ligaments have been stressed , the front load won't be so stress full .

    Good luck !

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    yeh i recon throw out the dbol and anavar . i wud imo run the hcg weeks 9-12 at 250iu x 2. you dont need 1000iu p/w at 500mg of test. also only run your l-dex if u experience sides or are prone to gyno, and only at .25mg eod. 0.5mg will drop ur estrogen too low. goodluck

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