deca and masteron for the first cycle

[stefan_bjj]

I want to do a first cycle with deca and masteron .
I choose that, because I want to keep my stamina during I gain weight.
I'm a BJJ competitioner.
It's a good idee or not?
Thanks and excuse my poor english

[D7M]

Not a good idea...

age?
height?
weight?
body fat?
years training?

[graeme87]

Answer the questions so we can help you ^^^

Also how much weight do you want to gain with this cycle?

[stefan_bjj]

Answer the questions so we can help you ^^^

Also how much weight do you want to gain with this cycle?

32
185cm
81kg
11%fat
12 years of martial training, recent 4 years BJJ and MMA
I want to take 10 Kilos, but not necessarily in one cycle
I want to know if you can give me some ideas about micro-cycles
Thanks for everything

[dec11]

could go for something like anavar , those two compounds you mentioned would shut you down hard, you need test with them but tht would be too many compounds 1st cycle.

[D7M]

^I agree, a simple test only cycle would be fine.
Test beginner cycle info

If you choose to go with anavar , you might be interested in this thread: ANAVAR Cycle (for those interested)

[stefan_bjj]

^I agree, a simple test only cycle would be fine.
Test beginner cycle info

If you choose to go with anavar , you might be interested in this thread: ANAVAR Cycle (for those interested)

but with a simple test cycle, I do not decrease my stamina?
I heard the deca is the best to keep your strenght and stamina

[D7M]

I don't think you'll decrease that much stamina on test. I'm not a martial artist, but I've used test plenty of times....

besides, deca is very suppressive, and you'll most likely end up feeling much worse (lethargic, etc) due to the lack of test in your system, which in turn will affect your training.

[stefan_bjj]

And some microcycles? You have any ideea?
I get a cycle idea with susta 250, dianabol 15mg ed and wistrol 100ml eod for 5 weeks
Plus PCT
It's good for something?

[D7M]

what do you mean, "micro-cycle"?

I really think you should keep reading around here before you try any AAS. 15mg dbol is a pretty low dose, and you'd want to take winny ED not, EOD.

[stefan_bjj]

minicycles excuse me
cycles less then 8 weeks

[D7M]

less than 8 weeks?

again, you could look into orals, like anavar or t-bol.

But if you want to use injectables, you're going to have to use short esters for anything under 8 weeks, which will mean more frequent injections.

[stefan_bjj]

I think I'll try simple test for the first cycle or combined with deca
10 months test and 9 months deca

[D7M]

I think I'll try simple test for the first cycle or combined with deca
10 months test and 9 months deca

MONTHS?

Stick to one compound your first cycle....

[stefan_bjj]

weeks it's not my nativ language
I saw a lot of cycles(beginner cycles) with more then one steroid
Somebody tell me it's better to take test 500 and deca 400(I was scared), because my receptors are hungry on first cycle
Pls give an example for a mini cycle with short ester steroid
Thanks again

[graeme87]

You have A LOT to learn. Keep reading!

10-12 week test E cycle 500mg with 30mg dbol ED for the first 4 weeks.

Simple cycle that will make you bigger, stronger and won't hurt your cardio.

Do you know about AI's and PCT?

[graeme87]

A short ester cycle would be:

8 weeks of test prop 50-75mg each day but I would go with the long ester so you can inject twice a week rather than 7 times.

[stefan_bjj]

AI's?
PCT is the recovery after the cycle

[D7M]

It's better to start off with one steroid , and see how your body reacts.

here is sample cycle with short esters:

1-8 Prop 75mg ED. (or 150 EOD, if you don't like pinning that much).

nolva/clomid for pct and you're set....

[graeme87]

AI = aromatase inhibitor like arimadex.

you'll need nolva or arimadex tabs when on cycle to prevent gyno and other sides.

[stefan_bjj]

I'm not used with shortcuts
yes I know what are the aromatase inhibitor, I know you can take that AI also during to your cycle for safety not only on the PCT
I know the importance of the PCT for keeping the mass gain and the proper diet
But I'm very interested of your steroid cycle theory because here, in my country, we have different theoryes. Off course not me, because I'm new in that bussines.
We have a greater influence from Rusia
For example, I was advice to take(besides the test cycle) a minicycle with deca , winny and proviron , or a masteron with deca cycle.
That's why I ask you