Second Cycle questions.

[gymrat 1313]

Height: 5'10"
Weight:205
Bf%: 15-17%

Barebell Bench: 225 for 15 reps
Squat: 315 for 12 reps
Barbell Shoulder Press: 185 for 12 reps

My first cycle i was looking to bulk up and put on some serious weight. It looked like this.

Test Enanthate: weeks 1-14 250 mg/ week
Equipoise: Weeks 1-14 400mg/week

I gained about 25 pounds off this cycle and kept 21 pounds. Im now looking for a dry/cut look and i want to shred up the mass that ive put on. I'm debating on whether i should use anavar/sust or anavar/test cyp. A possible cycle looks like this.

Sustanon or test cyp.: weeks 1-10 250 mg/ week
Anavar: weeks 4-10 50mg/ daily

I dont want to run a high amount of test because im trying to avoid bloat, and i want to be very lean and shredded. I was on a bulking diet throughout my first cycle and obviously since i plan on cutting up, i will be on a rigorous cutting diet while doing cardio 3 times a week.

Any sugesstions or help will be greatly appreciated.

[D7M]

age?

[gymrat 1313]

24 years old, been training for about 4-5 years.

[D7M]

I think the cycle is ok...you might want to up the dose on the test even a little, and use a low dose AI to control bloat

and if you're cutting, don't be afraid to add more cardio. I do cardio at least 3x's a week while I'm bulking.

[gymrat 1313]

which test do you think is more beneficial for what im looking for? sust or cyp?

and my pct looks like

Nolvadex: 40/40/20/20
Clomid:?
HCG:?

I felt that if i did hard cardio more than 3 times a week it would be too much. Are you suggesting 4-5?

[georgebanks]

use the cyp. sustanon is pointless in my opinion... why would you want to inject eod??

I disagree with increasing the dose...

I would actually lower the dose (125mg) and forget about the AI.

Anavar is good, but for cutting have you thought about tren? or even a low dose of deca?

I got shredded useing (125mg test) and (125mg deca) per week.

Ofcourse though you need to clean up your diet and kick up the cardio.

[E Police 183]

How did you see results with 125mg deca a wk? That is WAY too low. And to the OP, if in ur first cycle you would have upped the EQ it would have been a lot better. You have the weeks right but EQ needs to be run higher then 400mg. Should be somewhere around 600-750mgs.

[gymrat 1313]

125mg a week sounds low to me also. I agree about the higher dosage of eq, but it worked well for me so i cant complain.

[georgebanks]

well it all depends on what you want and what your comfortable with..

Deca works great as a cutting agent when used under 200mg a week..

If you really think that 125mg of test is low... than I suggest trying it and get your test levels checked.


normal range 250-800.... mine came back at 904 on 125mg of test per week...

but i stay on year round... and it this dose the side effects are very minimal, practicaly none.


you start getting your test levels above 2000... than I feel sorry for your prostate

[MotoLifter]

^^^^ DUDE!!!!! your on a hrt/trt dose to be in the "normal range" stop telling people who dont need hrt/trt to be on such a low dose, all that will do is shut down their natural test which was probably in the acceptable range, and replacing it with test to get back into that range.

an AI and when needed HCG, and of course a proper PCT protocol can handle most test related issues.


Moto