Tren ace/Test E/Dbol

[RusselGaint]

Hi guys

I took a break from aas and im fresh and ready for the new year.

my plan for my next cycle:

Tren A Don't know at what dosage
Test E 800mgs/Wk
Dbol 50mgs/ED

Stats:200lbs
6'0
9%bf

Goal is to gain lean mass, dont want to bulk and increase bf.
Try to stay lean, so i dont have to drop a lot of bf for my next
comp that is in june.

At what dosage can i take the tren and for how long?
Run the test for 10weeks and the dbol for 4weeks.

[Vitruvian-Man]

10 weeks is a little short for Test-E... However, if you're going to do that then you could run the Tren -A for 9 - 10 weeks. (then wait 2 weeks to start PCT, as suppressive lingering compounds clear the system..)

In terms of tren dosage... if it's your first time then perhaps 50mg ED... you could bump it up to 75mg ED if you can handle the sides..

D-bol dosage/length looks good.

Hope that helps; Keep us updated.

[RANA]

How many cycles have you done?
If you take Tren A with Test E you should start tren until about week 4

[RusselGaint]

thanks vitruvian-man. helps alot. i'll keep you guys updated.
Rana i've done 5 cycles in my life, this will be the first time on tren .
if i understand you right, i must start the test e for 4 weeks and then
start with the tren a?
Thanx for your information.

[RANA]

yes, test e is a long ester and tren a us a short ester.
can you show us what those 5 cycles look like to include pct?

[RusselGaint]

ok my first cycle was about 4 years ago, test cypionate 400mgs/week and dbol 30mgs/day nolvadex only for pct. 8week cycle

second cycle was 2 years ago test cypionate 500mgs/week and winstrol tabs 20mgs/day nolvadex and clomid for pct. 10week cycle

third cycle was 1year ago, gh 2ius/day and deca 200mgs/week clomid only for pct. deca run for 6weeks and gh for 6month.

forth cycle was last year feb, deca 500mgs and sustanon250 750mgs/week and dbol 25mgs/day. nolvadex and clomid for pct. 10week cycle

last cycle last year aug. before my competion test prop 300mgs/week, equipoise 400mgs/week, masteron 400mgs/week. for pct nolvadex, clomid and hcg . eq run for 12weeks, masteron and test prop for 6weeks to the competion. just after my comp i drop the masteron and eq. and run the test prop with deca for 6weeks and there after start my pct.

last year was my first comp and my first 4 cycles ive tried to picked up as must weight as possible, but for my prep for the comp ive seen that ive to lose alot of weight almost 42pound. thats why i want to take this cycle to pick up lean mass and diet very hard while on the juice.

so if i start with the test e and dbol for 4weeks and then start the tren a, for how long must i run the test e from there on and for how long the tren a?

[TinyTexan]

Hi guys

I took a break from aas and im fresh and ready for the new year.

my plan for my next cycle:

Tren A Don't know at what dosage
Test E 800mgs/Wk
Dbol 50mgs/ED

Stats:200lbs
6'0
9%bf

Goal is to gain lean mass, dont want to bulk and increase bf.
Try to stay lean, so i dont have to drop a lot of bf for my next
comp that is in june.

At what dosage can i take the tren and for how long?
Run the test for 10weeks and the dbol for 4weeks.

I experience a lot of bulk on that dose of Dbol. I gain a ton of weight on it, then lose it right away after done with it. Not all of it but atleast half. I have a much softer look on it. Just something to think about maybe. good luck

[RusselGaint]

thanx, but i believe if my diet will be in order then i will have least water retention. and that ive experience with my prep for my comp.

[RANA]

so if i start with the test e and dbol for 4weeks and then start the tren a, for how long must i run the test e from there on and for how long the tren a?

You should run tren atleast 8 weeks so here is an example cycle you are looking to do:

1-12wk test E 500mg
1-4 wk dbol 40mg ed
4-11 wk Tren A 75mg ED

You can actually run your tren until you finish your test E

[RusselGaint]

You should run tren atleast 8 weeks so here is an example cycle you are looking to do:

1-12wk test E 500mg
1-4 wk dbol 40mg ed
4-11 wk Tren A 75mg ED

You can actually run your tren until you finish your test E

Thanx alot, so you think i must lower my dosage with the test e to 500mgs and the dbol to 40mgs, coz ive planned to take them at a higher dose. and the dbol and tren that is ED, must one take it on none training days aswel or only on training days?

[RANA]

Thanx alot, so you think i must lower my dosage with the test e to 500mgs and the dbol to 40mgs, coz ive planned to take them at a higher dose. and the dbol and tren that is ED, must one take it on none training days aswel or only on training days?

This was only an example of a cycle, you can up your dosage is you feel comfortable, I just think you should focus on the gains of tren , I run test with tren to help me from fully shutting down.
Yes you still must take it even on none training days, ED for stable blood levels

[RANA]

Here is a small write up for you: Am I ready for Tren?

[RusselGaint]

wow thanx, gain alot of information. and its like now i know what tren will do and what i have to look for.

is still a bit confuse with the test e dosage.
you think if i run test lower then tren my gain will be better or just less sides?
cos as i read the thread, marcus300 said that he would run the test at a higher dose then the tren.

i really looking for the max lean gain, without abusing my cycle.
so if its ok to run the test e at 800mgs/week and the tren a at 75mgs ED and it would gave me better gains then i will go for that.

[RANA]

wow thanx, gain alot of information. and its like now i know what tren will do and what i have to look for.

is still a bit confuse with the test e dosage.
you think if i run test lower then tren my gain will be better or just less sides?
cos as i read the thread, marcus300 said that he would run the test at a higher dose then the tren.

i really looking for the max lean gain, without abusing my cycle.
so if its ok to run the test e at 800mgs/week and the tren a at 75mgs ED and it would gave me better gains then i will go for that.

If you're going to run tren A I would use test prop not test E. Regarding dosage everyone is different, This is only my recommendation is to run your test lower then your tren, i.e. 75mg ED of tren A and 50mg ED of prop

[Valac]

why not just run tren e at 300mg/400mg keep a lower inj schedule and both long esters

[RusselGaint]

why not just run tren e at 300mg/400mg keep a lower inj schedule and both long esters

wel this is my first time on tren , so just to be save im gonna run the tren a for if any side ocur, that i can easily get the tren out of my body in a view days.

i already hav the test e, so think i will run it with the tren a and see what this cycle will give me.

but thanx alot for your help Rana!

[RANA]

wel this is my first time on tren , so just to be save im gonna run the tren a for if any side ocur, that i can easily get the tren out of my body in a view days.

i already hav the test e, so think i will run it with the tren a and see what this cycle will give me.

but thanx alot for your help Rana!

You can run test E with Tren A, just start your Tren a 4 weeks after starting your test.

[RusselGaint]

gonna start test e and dbol on monday and then ill do as you said, start the tren a 4 weeks later. ill keep you guys updated.

[RusselGaint]

hey guys

Im on the test e and dbol for almost 2weeks now, and ive picked up 6pound while im dieting. just lift my carbs a little bit. but so far its going very well.

[RANA]

Good to hear, keep us posted