newbie 1st cycle , too much?

[torch74]

i am a fairly muscular 180 lbs right now.
i am skeptical this underground gear will have exactly what it says on the label. could be the right stuff but in lesser amts, might even be totally different stuff, might be totally fake!?

anyways, i got some deca300, sustanon and dbol
gonna do 600mg /wk of deca plus 250/wk sustanon for 10 wks, plus 20-40 mg /day of dbol first 25-50 days

my buddy swears by these underground labs but then says i shouldnt expect more than 10 lbs from my cycle.
and he says it might be as long as 7 weeks before i see any gains?

i am thinking with dbol kickstart this cycle should see over 20 lbs gain during cycle, not sure what to expect to keep long term?

what you guys think is typical?

[E Police 183]

stats please....
Age?
Body Fat?
Ht?
Training Exp?
Hows your Diet?

[D7M]

stats please....
Age?
Body Fat?
Ht?
Training Exp?
Hows your Diet?

x2...

and yes, that's too much for a first cycle

[E Police 183]

d7m gonna jack the thread for a quick sec...do you think its possible for the site admins to set something up so when someone signs up for this forum it takes like a week or 2 before they can start posting? would take out some of the people whos first posts are asinine. Not calling the OPer asinine...yet haha

[RANA]

x2...

and yes, that's too much for a first cycle

I agree^^^^^, stats are needed

[torch74]

40 yrs old
about 1-1.5 inches of at around waist

5'8.5" tall
20+ yrs training
most heavy weights, HIT style
diet is very clean 5 days a week with wkends as cheat days

if i knew this gear had 300mg/ml i would definitely stretch it out to 12-14 weeks but how do i know ?

[RANA]

Wgt and BF%?

[E Police 183]

so your about 5'9 at 180. Just wondering why do you want to do aas and be more in depth with your diet whats your pro fat carb break down and how many cals a day?

[torch74]

i said 180 lbs but bodyfat = 22 % on adult or 12 on athlete according to my tanita bf scale, thats all i know

[D7M]

i said 180 lbs but bodyfat = 22 % on adult or 12 on athlete according to my tanita bf scale, thats all i know

Is that one of those electronic bf scales? Those are worthless.

Can you help us get an estimate of your body fat? Do you have visible abs? muscle separation?

[torch74]

well 32 " used to be ripped sixpack but sitting at 35 " now with a little serratus showing and a little rectus but no obliques

[E Police 183]

diet please

[torch74]

diet is at least 1800 calories 5 days a week and about 2500 on weekends
i try to get at least .8 grams of protein per lb bodyweight, fairly low fat[15-25%] rest carbs with as little sugar as possible and some restriction on starches as well

this is for trying to lose the last ten lbs of bf not a gaining diet of course

[torch74]

diet is at least 1800 calories 5 days a week and about 2500 on weekends
i try to get at least .8 grams of protein per lb bodyweight, fairly low fat[15-25%] rest carbs with as little sugar as possible and some restriction on starches as well

[E Police 183]

bro you diet isn't any where need where it needs to be. You should be taking in somewhere around 3600cals a day and shouldnt have more then 2cheats in a month. and the protein should be closer to 2g per lb of body weight with 1g being the min.