First timer - Need help

[Tapaudomus]

Hi guys,


After many sports related injuries, I am considering steroids as a means of the healing / recovery benefits.

Up until recently, I have been involved in college athletics. But now after many injuries, I had to give it up. I don't think steroids belong in sports, but now that I'm done with that part of my life I am willing to try them.

Despite the injuries, for the most part, I am still in great shape. I exercise every day and go to the gym at least 4 times a week. I have a great athletic diet adviser through my school. And I still work with the physical trainers.

I don't need to bulk up. Though, a few more lbs of muscle wouldn't hurt.

22 Male 165lbs

All I need to know is what kind of steroid I should take and how I go about getting it. (I cant afford HGH)


Thanks for the help!

[VicGuy213]

I will say first of all that i am new to all of this, so take whatever i say with a grain of salt. I Am curious about what injuries you have had or have.

I have heard of people using Deca for joints and other related injuries. More specifically i have a buddy who broke his back, all doctors could do was give him painkillers for the rest of his life. Started doing cycles, and his back is in perfect shape.

[sigman roid]

I will say first of all that i am new to all of this, so take whatever i say with a grain of salt. I Am curious about what injuries you have had or have.

I have heard of people using Deca for joints and other related injuries. More specifically i have a buddy who broke his back, all doctors could do was give him painkillers for the rest of his life. Started doing cycles, and his back is in perfect shape.

Are you saying your friend broke his back, used steroids,and its better now?

[CanYouDigIt]

yup steroids is the /doctor prescription to heal all your broken bones!~ get herrrr done.

[D7M]

I don't think you're going to see alot of healing benefits from AAS.

You're 22 and 165lbs, how tall are you? approximate body fat?

[VicGuy213]

I wasnt even joking, He worked in and on heavy machinery. Was inside a machine, someone turned it on...i sure you can guess the rest.

He is actually one of the guys i work out with..I am not saying he is better now, im not saying it "healed" him. What i am saying is that it has helped him improve his mobility, lowered how much pain he was having, and actually helps him lead a normal life instead of sitting on the coach and using a cane...To put it this way, you dont see a 40 year old guy that broke his back lifting refrigerators and huge panes of glass, and that also keeps up with a 22 year old on the trails and in the gym.

He also said one time, "that no matter how many pain killers he took he still was never even close to 100%...but when He started doing cycles he feels 110%.."

Did it heal him? No. Did it help him with recovery and future maintanance? Yes.

[sigman roid]

I wasnt even joking, He worked in and on heavy machinery. Was inside a machine, someone turned it on...i sure you can guess the rest.

He is actually one of the guys i work out with..I am not saying he is better now, im not saying it "healed" him. What i am saying is that it has helped him improve his mobility, lowered how much pain he was having, and actually helps him lead a normal life instead of sitting on the coach and using a cane...To put it this way, you dont see a 40 year old guy that broke his back lifting refrigerators and huge panes of glass, and that also keeps up with a 22 year old on the trails and in the gym.

He also said one time, "that no matter how many pain killers he took he still was never even close to 100%...but when He started doing cycles he feels 110%.."

Did it heal him? No. Did it help him with recovery and future maintanance? Yes.

Thats what i thought you ment...lol

[RANA]

I don't think you're going to see alot of healing benefits from AAS.

You're 22 and 165lbs, how tall are you? approximate body fat?

Same question^^^^

[408gt91]

You are 22 and 165? AAS wont heal you. You may feel better while you are on depending on ur injuries, but you may feel worse when you come off. Honestly I would stick to PT and slowly build muscle naturally. You are only 22. Your body shold be making more then enough test to put on a lil muscle. Talk to your trainers about it.

[Tapaudomus]

6'
<4%bf

And let me clear things up a bit. I'm not looking into this because I think it will totally heal my old injuries. I'm simply trying to avoid new ones. And I know that the recovery time on steroids has to be beneficial. Am I wrong?

[RANA]

6'
<4%bf

And let me clear things up a bit. I'm not looking into this because I think it will totally heal my old injuries. I'm simply trying to avoid new ones. And I know that the recovery time on steroids has to be beneficial. Am I wrong?

Hard to believe that you are 4%

[ScotchGuard]

I've been on HGH for a year now and just ran a Sustanon 250 cycle last summer. While I was on cycle I had ZERO pain anywhere. It was wonderful, like a magic drug. When I came off the cycle a lot of the little aches and pains came back but it wasn't as intense. I think it was partly the AAS and partly that I was doing PT. In either case, I don't think the AAS hurt me any.

[Tapaudomus]

Hard to believe that you are 4%

we get measured all the time. 4% is the first reading on the scale and im under it.

[CanYouDigIt]

so you can see all your muscles striations accross your body and you can count your ribs, and also count your abs?

you dont need to flex so see a clear definition in all your muscles in your body?

I highly doubt it, but hey I might be wrong post us some picture so we can see, your nice genetics.

and one of the problem with AAS if u use it and you have an injury is that you might lift/pull too much and it might end up making it 10x worst then you wont be ever to train again.

[Mooseman33]

this is just stupid.
one guy said his friend broke his back, took AAS and is 100% fixed.
then another says he is at 4% bf but wants to take AAS to prevent future injuries...

am i the only one that wants to jump or throw someone out a fvking window?

[Tapaudomus]

This is ridiculous. I should have know it would be impossible to get help from a pile of roid rage.

Yes I'm in better shape than you - even though I have not taken steroids in the past. How is that so hard to believe? I work hard. And because of my hard work I'm starting to wear out and take on injuries.
I want to continue my active lifestyle but the only way i can see this happening is if I can find something that will help boost my recovery.
I came here for help in doing so. If you cant help me then **** off.

If you dont believe who I say I am. Send me a private message and you can add me to facebook. Please try to refrain masturbating to my pictures because I have the body you dont.

[CanYouDigIt]

I wasn't saying that you couldn't be 4%, I'm saying that most top athlete world professionals are only 6-8%, and they tend to keep themselves at that level because it is the healthy level,

only people that I know who drops below that is bodybuilders for competitions,

and if your not competing droping below 6% means that your not taking enough nutrients for your body and you life style isn't healthy so... and I don't wanna see your picture if your too shy to not post it on here.

but gl with your cycle thought.

[408gt91]

It doesnt matter if you are 4% or 14% AAS if any, will only do so much. You may or may not get a temporary fix to a perminate problem. I broke my shoulder, rib, and collorbone in a motorcycle crash. I still can feel and hear my shoulder crunch everyday and it will not ever be the same. AAS sometimes helps but when i come off and the water mass goes bye bye, so does the slight relief. And sometimes it makes it worse. Other times it dont help at all and it is what it is. Honestly I would try to heal naturally as much as you can. Then if you still dont feel right, give it a shot. I wouldnt push yourself beyond what you do now for a workout if healing is truely your goal.

[VicGuy213]

I want to chime in here again. Depending on what sports you do i could believe that you may be a low percentage. But to be honest I played nationally in rugby and the lowest that i got was 8-9% at 183 lbs. That was with 3 different trainers, nutritionist, physiotherapists, maseusses and psyche coaches. Its just hard to believe, because getting to that low of BF % you need to work hard, Which in turn means you would gain muscle no matter what.

I may be wrong, and would welcome a veteran to tell me so. As i only have 8 years of Professional training.

This is just my brain thinking ethically. Please correct me if i am wrong.

[Hard.On]

This is ridiculous. I should have know it would be impossible to get help from a pile of roid rage.

Yes I'm in better shape than you - even though I have not taken steroids in the past. How is that so hard to believe? I work hard. And because of my hard work I'm starting to wear out and take on injuries.
I want to continue my active lifestyle but the only way i can see this happening is if I can find something that will help boost my recovery.
I came here for help in doing so. If you cant help me then **** off.

If you dont believe who I say I am. Send me a private message and you can add me to facebook. Please try to refrain masturbating to my pictures because I have the body you dont.

6'
165
4% bf

Clearly this ethiopian I saw on a comercial last night is in better shape then all of us.

[Mooseman33]

This is ridiculous. I should have know it would be impossible to get help from a pile of roid rage.

Yes I'm in better shape than you - even though I have not taken steroids in the past. How is that so hard to believe? I work hard. And because of my hard work I'm starting to wear out and take on injuries.
I want to continue my active lifestyle but the only way i can see this happening is if I can find something that will help boost my recovery.
I came here for help in doing so. If you cant help me then **** off.

If you dont believe who I say I am. Send me a private message and you can add me to facebook. Please try to refrain masturbating to my pictures because I have the body you dont.

man u dont have a great body, u are skinny as hell.
to the point u may ned to run around in the shower to get wet..

the best advise i can give u is to keep training with ur buddy who healed his broken back by taking steroids, he seems to have it all figured out...

and people wonder why they get no help...

[chuckt12345]

4% BF and a 4% of muscle as well.

[VicGuy213]

man u dont have a great body, u are skinny as hell.
to the point u may ned to run around in the shower to get wet..

the best advise i can give u is to keep training with ur buddy who healed his broken back by taking steroids, he seems to have it all figured out...

and people wonder why they get no help...

Woah there...Its MY buddy who has been able to Mend and Maintain his back NOT healed...Which by the way he is running phina and deca. Found out yesterday. I can post my stats if you want to prove that i am not full of it..

[Mooseman33]

ur sats mean nothing to me.

[Oakleys]

If he is 4% bodyfat then I am a fat ass.



To the broken back guy:

It is possible to help pain with injuries by putting on muscle around the injury to help support it.

I can dig it helping him out.


Also, keep in mind he said it helped him, it didn't make him all better.

[Tapaudomus]

6'
165
4% bf

Clearly this ethiopian I saw on a comercial last night is in better shape then all of us.

I was invited to do a perfect push up commercial in California. But it was right after I had labrum shoulder surgery.

[Tapaudomus]

I want to chime in here again. Depending on what sports you do i could believe that you may be a low percentage. But to be honest I played nationally in rugby and the lowest that i got was 8-9% at 183 lbs. That was with 3 different trainers, nutritionist, physiotherapists, maseusses and psyche coaches. Its just hard to believe, because getting to that low of BF % you need to work hard, Which in turn means you would gain muscle no matter what.

I may be wrong, and would welcome a veteran to tell me so. As i only have 8 years of Professional training.

This is just my brain thinking ethically. Please correct me if i am wrong.

I dont play rugby, football, hockey or anything like that. And I wouldn't be anything less than 8% if I did.

[Tapaudomus]

If he is 4% bodyfat then I am a fat ass.

I guess you're a fat ass

[Tapaudomus]

I never said anything about broken bones being mended. I never said anything about old injuries being healed. All I asked was for something to help my RECOVERY time so I don't continue to take on so many injuries.

If you're retarded, and many of you are, read what I just said a few times and once you understand it - please don't respond.


And for the sake of getting this conversation back on track. You are welcome to consider me 6-12% body fat. 6' 165lbs.

[VicGuy213]

This is stupid. 4% is an unhealthy amount of bodyfat. Anyone could tell you that, im sure your doctor would even tell you that. Your body needs a certain amount of bodyfat to maintain homeostasis, by not keeping it insulated you are endangering it. So you know what, this is a silly post. Dont do any cycles unless you want to endanger yourself even more. You are obviously not mature enough to accept the responsibility for what you will do to your body.

My suggestion to you, Stop thinking that you know what you are doing and listen to people that DO know what they are doing.



PS. I already gave you a solution to your answer. Phina and Deca are what my friend used, and he is in much worse condition than you are. So it should work. Enjoy. I never said anything about mending bones. Im done with this stupid post, This should be closed.

[coot589]

Wow 4% I did not even know U could be at that low of a BF% without being under nurished or an insane Body Builder on like every compound known to man

[Oakleys]

Hi guys,


After many sports related injuries, I am considering steroids as a means of the healing / recovery benefits.

Up until recently, I have been involved in college athletics. But now after many injuries, I had to give it up. I don't think steroids belong in sports, but now that I'm done with that part of my life I am willing to try them.

Despite the injuries, for the most part, I am still in great shape. I exercise every day and go to the gym at least 4 times a week. I have a great athletic diet adviser through my school. And I still work with the physical trainers.

I don't need to bulk up. Though, a few more lbs of muscle wouldn't hurt.

22 Male 165lbs

All I need to know is what kind of steroid I should take and how I go about getting it. (I cant afford HGH)


Thanks for the help!

You said you had many sport related injuries. What sports did you play exactly.

Its cool, if your 4% body fat. Whatever.

keep in mind, if you take steroids now you could retard your natural ability. yes, I said retard.