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    really worried about my low test levels

    I got bloodwork done after doing a test-e only cycle for 12 weeks. Here is a timeline

    My last pin was october 8
    my last day of pct was december 7th
    blood test on January 8

    pct was nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 100/100/50/50

    My test level was only 334! Shouldn't it be much higher at this point? I did not run HCG which looks like a mistake. Is it possible my pct was bunk? I just ordered a natty test booster called bioforge that the guys at bb.com say is the best. I NEVER wake up with a morning boner either. In fact I didn't usually wake up with these before cycle. WTF is wrong with me? I am very concerned.

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    do you know what your levels were pre-cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    do you know what your levels were pre-cycle?
    no and I am kicking myself for not getting bloodwork pre-cycle

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    how old are u?

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    it sounds to me like you're having a difficult time bringing your HPTA back to full function. That could mean that you get very shut down on cycle. So yes using HCG may have been handy... but whatever, it's already happened. past is in the past..

    Anyways, some people get shut down hard post cycle (trying to recover their test production)... while others (like myself) recover almost immediately. Its luck on the draw bro..

    Get some viagra. Continue to go steroid free for another couple of months. No point freaking out. Simple.

    Peace.

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    forgot to say my age! 24

    Yea now I have to take 1/3 tab of a cialis before I am about to have sex just in case I can't get an erection. Chances are I could prob get one anyway but I am afraid to take my chances
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    alpha we already went over this last week

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    I thought like 220 or 250 was low?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    alpha we already went over this last week
    yea but I am freaking scared man. I posted this on another board and they were making it out like I have a major problem

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    these are CHEMICAL signals taking place in your body not electrical. They need time to restart and resume where they left off. Chemical are slow and long lasting effects, therefore they take time to ramp up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg View Post
    yea but I am freaking scared man. I posted this on another board and they were making it out like I have a major problem
    dont be scared,, its perfectly normal,,, this is why you do a pct. It will come up i promise. Give it time. If people are saying you have a problem after one month of pct then that is a great example why other forums are inferior.

    Plus theres no tellin it wasnt 330 before you started. It usually takes me about 4 months after cycle to start feeling normal myself.

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    Grab some Bioforge. It can't hurt. I ran Reveristol after a Nolva/Clomid pct, and started to get my gains back

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    sorry to bring it to you man but actually you should be concerned .

    low test is VERY dangerous IMO.

    try to do another aggressive pct consisting of HCG ,nolva and clomid .

    next time use HCG on cycle to maintain full testicular function .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigKuntry1984 View Post
    Grab some Bioforge. It can't hurt. I ran Reveristol after a Nolva/Clomid pct, and started to get my gains back
    yea just ordered two bottles of bioforge. I'll run 3 caps per day until I run out. Right now the plan is to start another cycle mid april, which would be time on + pct = time off. Did you find that the Reversitol helped your test levels return as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverTest View Post
    sorry to bring it to you man but actually you should be concerned .

    low test is VERY dangerous IMO.

    try to do another aggressive pct consisting of HCG ,nolva and clomid .

    next time use HCG on cycle to maintain full testicular function .
    dude he just ended pct a month ago. Your body takes time to recover.

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    Can't one do a re-pct?

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    sorry you guys post a little fast for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    dude he just ended pct a month ago. Your body takes time to recover.
    i know that bro i'm just saying maybe he should do another pct to boost his levels faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverTest View Post
    i know that bro i'm just saying maybe he should do another pct to boost his levels faster.
    i believe he needs to wait longer before he resolves to that.

    My ? to alpha is your already talkin about running a second cycle but your flippin out about your test levels from your first. I hope you understand the risks envolved when you play this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    i believe he needs to wait longer before he resolves to that.

    My ? to alpha is your already talkin about running a second cycle but your flippin out about your test levels from your first. I hope you understand the risks envolved when you play this game.
    sure I'll talk about doing another cycle but that doesn't mean it will be anytime soon. I want to make sure it's safe before doing so. Would running HCG now help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    i believe he needs to wait longer before he resolves to that.

    My ? to alpha is your already talkin about running a second cycle but your flippin out about your test levels from your first. I hope you understand the risks envolved when you play this game.

    ^^^

    You are asking for weekly visits to the doctor for the rest of your life if you are not careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigKuntry1984 View Post
    ^^^

    You are asking for weekly visits to the doctor for the rest of your life if you are not careful.
    well if my test remains $hitty for life like this, I would gladly take TRT and cruise like that. Better than having low test my whole life

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg View Post
    sure I'll talk about doing another cycle but that doesn't mean it will be anytime soon. I want to make sure it's safe before doing so. Would running HCG now help?
    Bro.. give it time. Relax. Take the cialis or whatever in the meantime. You are going to work yourself into a tizzy and then you are going to have additional issues.. You know how we can get psychologically ****ed up when it comes to sexual performance issues....

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    Oh! and get some more bloodwork in a couple of weeks.

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    I would wait another 4-8 weeks and see if the tests are back to "normal" / which you don't even know what your norm is because you didn't take a test pre-cycle.

    now just wait it out, if you've done your pct and you done a cycle of 12 weeks, then wait 12 weeks to recover,

    don't get why everyone thinks everything happends instantly...

    gl with your recovery

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg View Post
    sure I'll talk about doing another cycle but that doesn't mean it will be anytime soon. I want to make sure it's safe before doing so. Would running HCG now help?
    I always come off with some tribulus/ZMA combo, Iron-Tek makes one. Also take plenty of fenugreek. I do this in addition to normal PCT, never used HCG before hopefully I wont have to but hell I feel hornier now (three months after cycle) than I did when I was on...and I am 31.

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    How many cycles have you previously done?

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    The real issue is How do you feel? Do you feel lethargic, depressed, irritable, moody etc. If you feel fine, even though your test is in the low normal range, there probably isn't anything to worry about. Remember it is free test, not total test that matters. There are plenty of guys who naturally have test levels in the 300s that are bigger and stronger than guys with test levels in the 900s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANA View Post
    How many cycles have you previously done?
    just one

    Quote Originally Posted by tjax03 View Post
    The real issue is How do you feel? Do you feel lethargic, depressed, irritable, moody etc. If you feel fine, even though your test is in the low normal range, there probably isn't anything to worry about. Remember it is free test, not total test that matters. There are plenty of guys who naturally have test levels in the 300s that are bigger and stronger than guys with test levels in the 900s.
    no I feel great actually. Definitely not depressed or lethargic or anything like that. Unfortunately that blood test I took didnt say what my free test was on the document

    The only reason why I am worked up is because some posters have said I should be very concerned. I don't know anything about this kind of stuff but when other posters tell me that, I can't help but worry. Not to mention I hear guys saying they always wake up with morning wood when I almost never do.

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    test levels can take up to 2 months to return. Everyones different.

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    Wait a little bit, give your body a couple more months, then get tested.

    If it is still like that then its time to start worrying, 334 is low, but it isn't THAT bad especially consider your only been a month off. Give it some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    i believe he needs to wait longer before he resolves to that.

    My ? to alpha is your already talkin about running a second cycle but your flippin out about your test levels from your first. I hope you understand the risks envolved when you play this game.

    right on man , it aint fun screwing your hormone levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigKuntry1984 View Post
    Grab some Bioforge. It can't hurt. I ran Reveristol after a Nolva/Clomid pct, and started to get my gains back
    X2! running those after pct help a ton IMO. sucks though cause there over priced and cost more than nolva and clomid but do what you gotta do

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