First cycle: Deca alone?

[virk--]

Let me start of by saying this isn't for me but for a really good friend of mine. He said he can get deca and doesn't want to pass that up. I really have no idea if thats a good price or not so Im not even gonna comment on that. He has never taken an injection cycle but he has taken Xtren Mdrol and M1t's.

He's sitting at about 215 and I think hes like 5'8 or something around there. No idea on body fat but hes a pretty leaned out guy.

Oh and hes just about to turn 19... I know hes too young and shouldn't consider it but because his brother took it at the same age he is convinced he will be fine. I've tried to convince em to wait a while but that hasn't worked at all.

So what do you guys think? Deca alone for a first cycle?

[Mooseman33]

use the search button, this gets brought up daily...
and edit ur prices, cant discuss prices here...

[redz]

Deca alone is a terrible idea. Edit post...

[marcus300]

Awfull cycle,
Way to young,

[virk--]

I tried searching it but couldn't find it. I wouldn't have started this thread if I didn't think I really had to. Hes thinking about picking it up today or tmr so it was kind of urgent. And it looks like someone already edited my post, thanks to whoever did.

[redz]

18 is way too young to juice.

[Ernst]

Deca alone is a terrible idea at any age, and 18 is too young to be cycling.

Maybe when his dick stops working he'll realize he should have listened.

[virk--]

Okay, so besides telling him hes too young which I've been saying for a while now what should I tell him?

Well im going to the gym right now hopefully he is there to and I can try to convince em not to take it.

[marcus300]

Okay, so besides telling him hes too young which I've been saying for a while now what should I tell him?

Well im going to the gym right now hopefully he is there to and I can try to convince em not to take it.

No one here is going to advice a 18yr kid to cycle.

In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

[kirobg]

Hey, I think that your friend is too young for Deca .
But if he still wants to take it he has to take some form of testosterone along with it. The safest stack is:

Deca - 400mg a week for 10 weeks
Primobolan - 200mg a week for 12 weeks

[Ernst]

Hey, I think that your friend is too young for Deca .
But if he still wants to take it he has to take some form of testosterone along with it. The safest stack is:

Deca - 400mg a week for 10 weeks
Primobolan - 200mg a week for 12 weeks

Bad advice.

[chuckt12345]

Hey, I think that your friend is too young for Deca .
But if he still wants to take it he has to take some form of testosterone along with it. The safest stack is:

Deca - 400mg a week for 10 weeks
Primobolan - 200mg a week for 12 weeks

ill go with terrible advice being primo is not a test

[marcus300]

Hey, I think that your friend is too young for Deca .
But if he still wants to take it he has to take some form of testosterone along with it. The safest stack is:

Deca - 400mg a week for 10 weeks
Primobolan - 200mg a week for 12 weeks

Dont give advice in future, its reckless

[RANA]

Bad advice.

I agree, seriously?

[Triple Stack]

Ugh!...Deca only *wrong* 19 years old *wrong* and for a "friend"....and the friend already did prohromone cycles at this age (or younger) including M-Drol which is hard on the liver & endocrine system. Hell, it's OTC steroids too! At least his "buddy" is coming here for advice. Now I just hope he listens to you guys...

[kirobg]

In general, Deca Durabolin cycles are combined with heavy anabolic orals such as Dianabol . The main rationale behind this is that the oral steroid would kick start gains in mass while Deca Durabolin would serve to maintain and improve these gains. One of the most basic stacks you can have is a testosterone -Dianabol-Deca Durabolin cycle. This stack would give you a good amount of increase in muscle size. It is a classic combination that can have several varieties. In the original stack, bodybuilders use 500 mg of testosterone, 400 mg of Deca Durabolin and 30 mg of Dianabol. A high dose version would have testosterone to up to 1000 mg a week and Dianabol up to 60 mg a day. The Deca Durabolin cycle in the stack remains constant at 400 mg a week. Another sample stack is the Primobolan-Deca Durabolin cycle. This is one of the safest stacks available in the market. The Deca Durabolin cycle in this stack ranges from 200 to 400 mg a week while the Primobolan would be at 200 mg a day. The Primobolan-Deca Durabolin cycle would give you good gains with good quality.

Source: www.*********.com

I think that the authors of this website know more about the use of steroids than everyone who said "Bad advice" combined.

[RANA]

In general, Deca Durabolin cycles are combined with heavy anabolic orals such as Dianabol . The main rationale behind this is that the oral steroid would kick start gains in mass while Deca Durabolin would serve to maintain and improve these gains. One of the most basic stacks you can have is a testosterone -Dianabol-Deca Durabolin cycle. This stack would give you a good amount of increase in muscle size. It is a classic combination that can have several varieties. In the original stack, bodybuilders use 500 mg of testosterone, 400 mg of Deca Durabolin and 30 mg of Dianabol. A high dose version would have testosterone to up to 1000 mg a week and Dianabol up to 60 mg a day. The Deca Durabolin cycle in the stack remains constant at 400 mg a week. Another sample stack is the Primobolan-Deca Durabolin cycle. This is one of the safest stacks available in the market. The Deca Durabolin cycle in this stack ranges from 200 to 400 mg a week while the Primobolan would be at 200 mg a day. The Primobolan-Deca Durabolin cycle would give you good gains with good quality.

Source: www.*********.com

I think that the authors of this website know more about the use of steroids than everyone who said "Bad advice" combined.

Nothing better then parroting advice, this info given out is from experiences. Cut and paste all you want but get your facts straight!!!

[HuntMan]

^^AGreed..

[slimy]

For every piece of advise telling your friend that he is too young ( which he is): a kid like that is not going to listen. Then they say,' sides are too bad"... Tell him what the sides are.

Simple search,that you refused to do: Deca alone with no Test base: a VERY good chance that his dick won't work. Does he want to be 19 and not be able to get an erection? At least for the duration of his cycle? Probably longer. There are worse things to start off with ( one idiot wanted to do deca with tren as his first cycle- hope he is good at munching carpet). If the girls notice the new muscles, your friend isn't going to be able to do anything about it.

Finding this board is easy. Tell your friend to get on it. Read the stickies. Use the search feature. There is valuable information on here. In a couple of years, when his body is ready, if he chooses to use compounds, he will have the knowledge to use the proper ones.

If you are his friend, do NOT let him do deca alone.

[Mooseman33]

In general, Deca Durabolin cycles are combined with heavy anabolic orals such as Dianabol . The main rationale behind this is that the oral steroid would kick start gains in mass while Deca Durabolin would serve to maintain and improve these gains. One of the most basic stacks you can have is a testosterone -Dianabol-Deca Durabolin cycle. This stack would give you a good amount of increase in muscle size. It is a classic combination that can have several varieties. In the original stack, bodybuilders use 500 mg of testosterone, 400 mg of Deca Durabolin and 30 mg of Dianabol. A high dose version would have testosterone to up to 1000 mg a week and Dianabol up to 60 mg a day. The Deca Durabolin cycle in the stack remains constant at 400 mg a week. Another sample stack is the Primobolan-Deca Durabolin cycle. This is one of the safest stacks available in the market. The Deca Durabolin cycle in this stack ranges from 200 to 400 mg a week while the Primobolan would be at 200 mg a day. The Primobolan-Deca Durabolin cycle would give you good gains with good quality.

Source: www.*********.com

I think that the authors of this website know more about the use of steroids than everyone who said "Bad advice" combined.

please stop giving advice and stop trying to defend ur advice..

[PistolStarta]

please stop giving advice and stop trying to defend ur advice..

lol he contradicted himself in his own post about using a test base, then quoted someone else failing

[RANA]

This is his one of his post, not sure that he has even cycled before.

Hi everyone. I am 23 years old and I weight 210 pounds. I am planing to run a cycle with Primobolan , Deca , Dianabol , Dostinex and Nolvadex . Here is how my cycle looks like:

Primobolan - 200mg a week for 12 weeks starting week 1
Deca - 400mg a week for 10 weeks starting week 1
Dianabol - 40mg ED for 4 weeks starting week 1
Dostinex - 2.5mg ED for 12 weeks starting week 1

Week 13 and 14 NOTHING

PCT Nolvadex
Week 15, 20mg ED
Week 16, 20mg ED
Week 17, 10mg ED
Week 18, 10mg ED
Week 19, 10mg ED

Please let me know if there is something wrong with it.
1. I am concerned about the PCT and the use of Dostinex. I am not sure when I have to start taking Dostinex and for how long.
2. I know that Dianabol is liver toxic, but I don't know if I have to take something along with it or not.
3. When I start my cycle, can I inject Primobolan and Deca in the same day at the same time? Does it matter when during the day I will take Dianabol?

Thank you in advance!

[kirobg]

I said "some form of testosterone ". And why don't you give a better advice instead of criticizing me. If you don't like my advice, say what is wrong with it and give a better one.

[PistolStarta]

I said "some form of testosterone". And why don't you give a better advice instead of criticizing me. If you don't like my advice, say what is wrong with it and give a better one.

well he clearly cant get primo (also the most expensive hormone and WHY would a beginner be recommended 3 compounds at once) Also, no dosing or reasoning recommendations to go along with your test reference. WHY is PRIMO and DECA safer than just Deca? 2 are more safe then 1? ok

[PistolStarta]

But, the best advice is he's 18, so dont take it.

[romo6]

In general, Deca Durabolin cycles are combined with heavy anabolic orals such as Dianabol . The main rationale behind this is that the oral steroid would kick start gains in mass while Deca Durabolin would serve to maintain and improve these gains. One of the most basic stacks you can have is a testosterone -Dianabol-Deca Durabolin cycle. This stack would give you a good amount of increase in muscle size. It is a classic combination that can have several varieties. In the original stack, bodybuilders use 500 mg of testosterone, 400 mg of Deca Durabolin and 30 mg of Dianabol. A high dose version would have testosterone to up to 1000 mg a week and Dianabol up to 60 mg a day. The Deca Durabolin cycle in the stack remains constant at 400 mg a week. Another sample stack is the Primobolan-Deca Durabolin cycle. This is one of the safest stacks available in the market. The Deca Durabolin cycle in this stack ranges from 200 to 400 mg a week while the Primobolan would be at 200 mg a day. The Primobolan-Deca Durabolin cycle would give you good gains with good quality.

Source: www.*********.com

I think that the authors of this website know more about the use of steroids than everyone who said "Bad advice" combined.

Amazing,please shut up.

[Big]

Hey, I think that your friend is too young for Deca .
But if he still wants to take it he has to take some form of testosterone along with it. The safest stack is:

Deca - 400mg a week for 10 weeks
Primobolan - 200mg a week for 12 weeks

the sad part is that you probably think that's good advice.

In general, Deca Durabolin cycles are combined with heavy anabolic orals such as Dianabol . The main rationale behind this is that the oral steroid would kick start gains in mass while Deca Durabolin would serve to maintain and improve these gains. One of the most basic stacks you can have is a testosterone-Dianabol-Deca Durabolin cycle. This stack would give you a good amount of increase in muscle size. It is a classic combination that can have several varieties. In the original stack, bodybuilders use 500 mg of testosterone, 400 mg of Deca Durabolin and 30 mg of Dianabol. A high dose version would have testosterone to up to 1000 mg a week and Dianabol up to 60 mg a day. The Deca Durabolin cycle in the stack remains constant at 400 mg a week. Another sample stack is the Primobolan-Deca Durabolin cycle. This is one of the safest stacks available in the market. The Deca Durabolin cycle in this stack ranges from 200 to 400 mg a week while the Primobolan would be at 200 mg a day. The Primobolan-Deca Durabolin cycle would give you good gains with good quality.

Source: www.*********.com

I think that the authors of this website know more about the use of steroids than everyone who said "Bad advice" combined.

either stay here and learn wtf you're talking about before you give advice, or go back to that site where you probably fit in better. you are obviously clueless.

[Big]

geez I just realized your asking advice about your horrible cycle then advising others to do the same cycle. I don't see you lasting long here.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=414339

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=416669

[Kibble]

If I lost function of my cock at 18 years old, I would probally commit suicide. I cannot imagine being diagnosed with ED at 18 years old. When I was 18, I was trying to screw every girl on the block. Bro, if you are going to run anything..... run creatine and protein

[Kibble]

I would prefer creatine and protein over AAS if I HAD to choose in all honesty. Creatine and protein did wonders for me in only 3 years of lifting weights

[virk--]

Bigkuntry this isnt for me its for a buddy

Alright well I talked to em at the gym today and he kinda went roid rage on me telling me its his body and he`ll do whatever he wants then he went on by saying my brother was fine.

So I was like im not gonna put up with this, im just tryna help the guy out. I walked off and did my own thing at the workout and about 15 mins later he came by and apologized and I told em I wouldn`t try to convince em to not take it anymore because clearly hes gonna take it.

Forget about the age, just tell me the safest cycle for him to take with deca . It`s either he takes deca by itself which is clearly not a good idea or someone comes up with something he can stack with it. Keep in mind this would be his first cycle so something not too harsh.

Oh and he already bought the deca...

[virk--]

His goal is fat loss and lean muscle gain if that helps.

[kirobg]

Sorry for the advice, if you all think that it is bad than maybe it is.

[Big]

Bigkuntry this isnt for me its for a buddy

Alright well I talked to em at the gym today and he kinda went roid rage on me telling me its his body and he`ll do whatever he wants then he went on by saying my brother was fine.

So I was like im not gonna put up with this, im just tryna help the guy out. I walked off and did my own thing at the workout and about 15 mins later he came by and apologized and I told em I wouldn`t try to convince em to not take it anymore because clearly hes gonna take it.

Forget about the age, just tell me the safest cycle for him to take with deca . It`s either he takes deca by itself which is clearly not a good idea or someone comes up with something he can stack with it. Keep in mind this would be his first cycle so something not too harsh.

Oh and he already bought the deca...

bro just let it go. there is no way and 18 year old can safely cycle deca. you tried, just shake your head and let him go.

[c-Z]

Sorry for the advice, if you all think that it is bad than maybe it is.

Here follow these steps...

A. Shut up. Don't respond to questions.
B. Read. You will be surprised how much you will learn in a matter of a few weeks. And that is proper.
C. When you know whats going on then feel free to help out.

But in the mean time. Ride the roller coaster.. Sit back shut up and have fun.

[virk--]

I understand there is no way its gonna be safe but there has to be a way to make it even a little bit safer right?

[Big]

if you want to make it safer, ask him to let you see the deca , then toss it out the window.

[c-Z]

I understand there is no way its gonna be safe but there has to be a way to make it even a little bit safer right?

Stop being a middle man. tell him to get his ass on here. N learn what the hells he is about to do.

[hogwild]

if he doesnt like to get head or get laid then i guess.

[Nooomoto]

I understand there is no way its gonna be safe but there has to be a way to make it even a little bit safer right?

Your friend is a moron. Stop giving him advice, stop trying to help him. If he's so deadset on learning a lesson the hard way, then so be it.