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    deca,tren, test enathate cycle

    has anyone ever ran these together...also taking nolvadex and have dbol on hand...

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    Stats? That's a pretty advanced cycle.

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    i have already ran 2 cycles and i have ran all of these before just not this exact combination...
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    been lifting 10 years
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    185

    i have always had great re.sults with tren and dbol ...plan on taking rather low dosages of this stack..trying to get to 195 but stay as lean as possible thats why i want to use the tren....i have all pct necassary..the second cycle i did was sus 250, eq, and masteron for 12 weeks...i know i can handle the cycle just want to make sure it will give me the results i thhink it should.
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    Bf%? Have you thought of a enth or cyp for 12-14 weeks@ 500mg with a dbol kickstart at 40 mg/day weeks 1-4? You could also backload 3-4 weeks of var@60mg day right up to start of pct. Just a thought. Recovery may be easier than deca and tren and would still provide very mice results.

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    started test enathate todat 250mg

    yea i am using test entathate...my bf% is close to 21%...also started dbol today 25mg dose and gonna stack deca with tren at 400 mg a week....and taking 10-20 mg of nolvadex a day...i can get amdex if needed and already have clomid if pct is needed..

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    what?

    21% bf and have had good results in the past? tren should rip you up and harden you...

    why take the nolva during the cycle?

    and above i am missing pieces of the cycle..

    here is what you need to do post you full cycle... post goals... why you are using nolva during the cycle... and why you believe you have good results before but now are 21% bf

    thanx

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    i will post pics of results

    Well i am gonna run with it and get my trainer to document my measurements to see how well it works...i will post before pics next weeks and after pics half way threw cycle and the end...thanks for the advice Spartin...i am trying to be able to keep at the amatuer level by 2012...thats my real goal..if i diet right i should get there

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    because before my diet was shit and it isnt now...i am taking the nolva because i am running a long ester...i thought that was nessary when taking test, deca , and dbol .. and the tren did cut my body fat in half before and made me solid ass a rock....i was lifting but eating like shit so has strength but was chubby because my diet was shit...and my goal is to go from 183 to 195 and stay as lean as possible....help me out here so i get this right..thanks for your reply

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    test enythate 500mg a week
    dbol 25mg a day
    tren 200 mg a week
    deca 200 mg a week
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    Quote Originally Posted by iron nate View Post
    because before my diet was shit and it isnt now...i am taking the nolva because i am running a long ester...i thought that was nessary when taking test, deca , and dbol .. and the tren did cut my body fat in half before and made me solid ass a rock....i was lifting but eating like shit so has strength but was chubby because my diet was shit...and my goal is to go from 183 to 195 and stay as lean as possible....help me out here so i get this right..thanks for your reply

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    test enythate 500mg a week
    dbol 25mg a day
    tren 200 mg a week
    deca 200 mg a week
    posting how long you are running these compounds of aaw would help





    i cant comment much on the deca but i do know if you read the profile you should be taking 400 - 600 for best results... a quote like "tests/studies have shown more you take the more you gain" so that is not expert advise coming from me... but, i am starting deca in about 4 to 5 weeks (God willing) and plan on taking 500mgs a week

    the dbol should run 25 to 60 mgs a day so seems fine there - you need to post how long you plan on running that

    the tren i would strongly suggest running the whole cycle and 400 mgs a week i am assuming it is tren a? that means shot eod or ed.

    the test e seems fine at 500...

    as for the nolva - again im not an expert but you dont have to absolutly run it during a cycle - i am not promo'ing you to even take this cycle because i dont like the high bf #... if a trainer is offering aas to you to take while that high of a bf i totally totally disagree- but i will move on... the nolva is a estro blocker - so i dont really see an issue with taking it if side prove you need it but... there may be a reason to take it with your hight bf #s - fat and estrogen are our nemeisis - maybe letro should be studied and looked at for the anti gyno proprities...

    hope that helps ....

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    12 weeks and it is tren a

    it is tren a and i plan on running the cycle 12 weeks..the dbol only for the first 4 weeks...so your saying dont take nolva unless i need it then...and as far as my bf% goes it could be lower i havnt checked it in 2 months and i am leaner than i have ever been right now...it could be as low as 15%..thanks for you time and advice...i am gonna post pics during cycle so you can see my results..i added you to my contact list since you were so helpfull...thanks

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    well, bf is funny get it taken by calipers... not scale, and every one says 15 % and i cant fight those # due to negitive side effects... take the nolva if and only if you have an isssue with estrogen, or you are worried you will get some estrogen issues... other wise in my op i dont or wouldnt run it just because of a long estered test...

    and i think tren for a newer person is a very advanced drug... good thing it is "a" cuz it will get out of your system faster if you dont like...

    and i would def run the tren a at a higher dose... maybe 200 to start then up to 300 by the third week then 400 by the 5th week and stay at that level till the end.

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    Will do amcon, thanks for the advice i will send some pics of my results in a few weeks....if this does what i think it will i should look like you just shorter..lol

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    lol... well good luck eat right and work out hard

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    i am at it 7 days a week and am taking my diet seriously....i have a friend that just placed third in a amature competition and his diet is what did the trick so i am definately a beliver now...been on the diet now for 3 weeks and started cylcle today..thanks bro

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