Prop/Primo/Var/Win?

[Jackt23]

So ive never used primo before, and i have used var before but not very high or for very long. That being said, ive delt with prop before and winny. Im basically trying to lean out a bit and just gain some solid mass, maybe 10-15lbs.

This is my proposed cycle any info will be appreciated.

26yr
15% bf
185

Week 1-10 Var 100 ed
Week 1-14 Test Prop 150mg eod (only 1x into week 14 so pct match up)
Week 1-12 Primo 133mg eod
Week 8-14 Winny 65mg ed
Week 1-17 Arim .5mg ed
Week 11-14 HCG 500iu 2x
Week 15-18 Nolv 20mg
Week 15-18 Clomid 150/100/50 10 days each

I also wonder if the var is worth throwing into the cycle at that dose because it is so expensive will the addition of the var make the cycle that much better? Would it be just as good without the var?

thanks in advance for any help.

~Jackt

[chuckt12345]

cycle history?

[Jackt23]

Ive done 3 or 4 before using Sust, Test E, Deca, and Tren, but started having issues with progest gyno so tryin to stay away from the 19 nors...

[chuckt12345]

yea id drop either the var or primo

[Vitruvian-Man]

Cycle looks fine.... BTW though, 0.5mg ED of a-dex is a LOT. Are you very sensitive to estrogen or something?

Var & primo are two very expensive compounds. I really like var @ a high dosage like 100mg. I feel like it cuts/hardens me up similar to tren.

Why don't you just do this insteaad....

Week 6-14 Var 100 ed
Week 1-14 Test Prop 150mg eod (only 1x into week 14 so pct match up)
Week 1-12 Masteron 400mg each week
Week 9-14 Winny 65mg ed

changes

[laduem88]

too many compounds!!

[Jackt23]

Cycle looks fine.... BTW though, 0.5mg ED of a-dex is a LOT. Are you very sensitive to estrogen or something?

Var & primo are two very expensive compounds. I really like var @ a high dosage like 100mg. I feel like it cuts/hardens me up similar to tren.

Why don't you just do this insteaad....

Week 6-14 Var 100 ed
Week 1-14 Test Prop 150mg eod (only 1x into week 14 so pct match up)
Week 1-12 Masteron 400mg each week
Week 9-14 Winny 65mg ed

changes

i dunno about the adex....i just remembered reading something somewhere, possibly the profiles on steroid.com with charts showing that .5mg worked best compared to more or less....also i had gyno form from either deca or tren although i ran some letro to try and reverse it and some caber to control it, and there is still a lump under my nips but havent grown at all...im just nervous that with running anything, it will just get worse so i figured that .5mg might be a lil more cautious....which is also why i liked the primo for the fact of it not converting to estrogen...just tryin to be cautious...dont want the lumps to flair up**edit** although i just read that mast "won´t aromatize at all nor will it have progesteronic sides, " and ,"may actually be very useful for combating estrogenic/progesteronic side effects" according to the steroid.com profile so so between the two i guess i dont need to worry as much about aromatizing.**edit**

as for masteron ive never tried it although i like what ive read about it, im just nervous that my bf isnt low enough for mast to make a difference so i figured primo might be a better choice..havent used either of primo or mast and im up for either...i like the way the one you wrote looks

too many compounds!!

yea thats why i was thinkin of maybe dropping the var...i mean the var is conna cost me more than the primo and prop combined, so i wasnt sure if it was really cost effective to run but i mean if it is, might as well run it....its not like its all that harsh on me and i can only see it helping.

[laduem88]

why not drop the var and primo and just use masteron? primo and var are both very expensive...besides at your stats 185 @ 15%...id just do test to be honest.. how tall are you?

[Jackt23]

5'8"..and they ARE expensive, but i dont mind the money for one, or the other, or even both, as long as its worth it. Luckily i can get either relatively cheap.

[laduem88]

5'8"

honestly if i were you id run: test p/var to get some quality gains and to lean out.

[Jackt23]

definately will think about that....hopefully i can get some more insight and see what some other people think...and try and do some more reading myself....thanks for the help so far bros

[D7M]

honestly if i were you id run: test p/var to get some quality gains and to lean out.

^agreed. And a trip to the diet forum before starting a cycle never hurt anyone

[laduem88]

^agreed. And a trip to the diet forum before starting a cycle never hurt anyone

agreed as well sir

[TITANIUM]

too many compounds!!

why not drop the var and primo and just use masteron? primo and var are both very expensive...besides at your stats 185 @ 15%...id just do test to be honest.. how tall are you?

honestly if i were you id run: test p/var to get some quality gains and to lean out.

^agreed. And a trip to the diet forum before starting a cycle never hurt anyone

Agreed^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Best

T

[laduem88]

relooking at your original post. how can you have ran most of these compounds before and only weigh 185 @ 15% ? definitely look at your training and diet first!!!!

[BJJ]

^agreed. And a trip to the diet forum before starting a cycle never hurt anyone

...x2
You are 5'8 x 185lbs with 15% bf, after 4 cycles.
Check your diet.

[Jackt23]

definately, the first few were when i was younger and didnt know what a diet was, also due to a shoulder and elbow injuries i lost what i gained in the past due to time off, but ive gotten my diet in check, definately will do more reading in the diet forum prior to running this...just trying to get this cleared up and taken care of so when i am ready for it, i can go.......im thinkin ill run just the prop and var and see how it turns out...i can always add something else the next time if need be.

thanks for the help bros!