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    New cycle - critique pls!

    5"11 195lbs about 13-14% bf. Goals are lean muscle gains and some fat loss. Id be very happy with 7-10lbs of muscle.

    Weeks 1-4 & 9-12 Clen Pump @ 100mcgs ED
    Weeks 1-7 Tren A @ 75mgs EOD
    Weeks 1-8 Test P @ 100mgs EOD
    Weeks 1-8 Arimidex @ .5mgs ED
    Weeks 6-8 HCG @ 250ius 2 times a week

    PCT
    Weeks 9-12 Clomid @ 100mgs ED and 50mgs ED last 2 weeks
    Weeks 9-12 Nolvadex @ 40mgs ED and 20mg ED last 3 weeks

    Especially need help with my PCT, as well as HCG use. Also what do you think of my arimidex use? I am very prone to gyno, Ive had a lump before from npp and prop which went away over time. I have not cycled in four years.
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    How old are you and how many cycles is this for you and have you ever ran tren?

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    Ive run 2 cycles first being 12 weeks of test e, second was 12 weeks (too long) of prop npp and tbol. Never used tren

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    Age?

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    22 now, first cycle was at 18, havent done one since. I gained 18lbs kept 12 off the first cycle been working out natural for the past 4 years. Know all the cons about using at my age so dont worry about telling me. Just looking for help with my cycle lol thanks.

    is my hcg placed at proper time? also what about my arimidex and gyno is it enough? how are my doses?
    thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMan06 View Post
    Ive run 2 cycles first being 12 weeks of test e, second was 12 weeks (too long) of prop npp and tbol. Never used tren
    Quote Originally Posted by JMan06 View Post
    22 now, first cycle was at 18, havent done one since. I gained 18lbs kept 12 off the first cycle been working out natural for the past 4 years. Know all the cons about using at my age so dont worry about telling me. Just looking for help with my cycle lol thanks.

    is my hcg placed at proper time? also what about my arimidex and gyno is it enough? how are my doses?
    thank you
    So how many cycles has it been?

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    from what ive learned its better to use hcg throughout the cycle at 250 ius 2 or 3 times a week, rather than during pct. and id add nolvadex at 40 or 50mgs ed into ur pct. everything else looks great.

    just my .02

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    Before you run tren read this:
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=413262

    BTW drop clen, extend you test one week more then tren. Start your PCT 3 days after your last injection of test.
    Get caber or bromo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANA View Post
    So how many cycles has it been?
    was rly 2 sorry, both at 18 first was test e second prop npp tbol

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    okay i read your article, can you explain why to use tren at a higher dose then test? wouldnt it make more sense the other way? Also if i kept prop at 8 weeks and tren at 6 would that be long enough to get good gains?

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    why drop clen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunterwells View Post
    from what ive learned its better to use hcg throughout the cycle at 250 ius 2 or 3 times a week, rather than during pct. and id add nolvadex at 40 or 50mgs ed into ur pct. everything else looks great.

    just my .02
    you think drop the aromasin and add nolva? which combo u recommend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANA View Post
    Before you run tren read this:
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=413262

    BTW drop clen, extend you test one week more then tren. Start your PCT 3 days after your last injection of test.
    Get caber or bromo.
    This is for prolactin right? can you tell me a bit more about these drugs and how to dose them?

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    sorry to post again lol but im also reading that hcg is bad to use if your prone to gyno and estrogenic sides which i am... should i drop the hcg with my cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMan06 View Post
    you think drop the aromasin and add nolva? which combo u recommend?
    ^ no keep the aromasin, its the best aromatase inhibitor that u can use during pct, also it helps bring natty test levels back up. use that along with the nolva and clomid in the doses spoken about earlier, but run pct for at least 4 weeks and remember to keep your caloric intake higher than normal

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMan06 View Post
    sorry to post again lol but im also reading that hcg is bad to use if your prone to gyno and estrogenic sides which i am... should i drop the hcg with my cycle?
    as long as youre running arimidex throughout the cycle, you wont get gyno

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMan06 View Post
    This is for prolactin right? can you tell me a bit more about these drugs and how to dose them?
    bump

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMan06 View Post
    okay i read your article, can you explain why to use tren at a higher dose then test? wouldnt it make more sense the other way? Also if i kept prop at 8 weeks and tren at 6 would that be long enough to get good gains?
    What is your goal of running this cycle, what benefits do you want from the tren or the test? If it's they test why not just run test only cycle, but if its the tren you want to establish most of your gains from tren, test is a base to help from shutting down and helping you keep your sex drive. You will get better results running tren at least 8 weeks, 6 weeks is ok but prepare your cycle for 8 weeks and if you want to end it at 6 then you can.

    Quote Originally Posted by JMan06 View Post
    why drop clen?
    Not needed, save it for PCT, you will love the results of tren

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    My goals to gain quality lean muscle, I dont want to blow up but rather lean out and put on some hard muscle. Id be happy with gaining 7lbs on lean muscle. Id like to loose some fat around the mid section as well. I dont have much my abs are there but am holding a little extra around the bottom.

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    You might have to play with the dosage and see what works for you, I have given my recommendation. Good luck

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    My last cycle was 80mg/ed of prop and 80mg/ed of npp. I found this to be too much, I got bad gyno lots of acne and bloat. Im hoping the lower dose of test as well as the .5mg/ed arimidex and lean hardening gains from tren will change this. Since tren is stronger and is my first time using im keeping the dose lower. Thats the reasoning for my doses.

    is 75mg/EOD of tren enough to notice good gains?

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    i got 20ml of 100mg/1ml of propionate and 10ml of 100mg/1ml test suspension and 50 20mg nolva. Anyone have a good idea on stackage? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceda26 View Post
    i got 20ml of 100mg/1ml of propionate and 10ml of 100mg/1ml test suspension and 50 20mg nolva. Anyone have a good idea on stackage? Thanks.
    Start your own thread to help you with your question

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    i dont know how. if you didnt see. It says new member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceda26 View Post
    i dont know how. if you didnt see. It says new member.
    so, new members can start there own thread

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