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    propionate and suspension cycle.help

    i have just ordered 20ml propionate 100mg/ml and 10ml 100mg/ml test suspension and of course 50 20mg nolva. Can anyone give me advice on the best way to stack this cycle. Im 5'7 180 lean. i eat all the time but not like i should. tons of meat cheese and pasta. some cardio mostly heavy lifting Thanks for any advice.

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    Age?
    body fat?
    cycle experience?

    First thing you need to do is clean up your diet.

    It honestly doesn't look like you have enough gear. Suspension needs to be shot at least 2x/day, so be ready for that. And even then, you'd only really have enough for 6 weeks at 500mg/wk.

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    Definitely not enough gear.... As stated. Full Stats.

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    Ya money is tight right now with the economy. I just wanted the best gear for the price. I could probley get more during the cycle to keep it going if it wasnt too much more. i have taken small cycles in the past. like just one 10ml vial of sustaplex 325 or trenbolone . but never more than one 10ml vial at a time. i have only been studying for a few years and thats why im asking for guidance now. im 26 yrs old and have 10 percent body fat. if i got another suspension would it be good for this cycle?

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    Bro we need stats first to really help you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lift-Eat-Repeat View Post
    Bro we need stats first to really help you out.
    i dont really know what stats to give.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lift-Eat-Repeat View Post
    Bro we need stats first to really help you out.
    He stated his facts within the two posts....

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    OK now what kind of dose are you looking to run? You have ran tren before? What did that cycle look like?

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    i have ran tren . It was 10ml at 100mg/ml. i ran 50mg a day for a few days then 100mg till it was gone which was fast. i actually got alot of results though. my bench went up 40lb and i went from a 2 pack to a six. im looking to run the propionate at 100mg eod and posibley throwing the suspension in during. im not sure on stacking these two. i was thinking with the suspension maybe 50mg twice a day at the end of the propionate but wasnt sure???

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    oh i forgot to mention that i ran sustaplex a month before the tren but had bad sides. hair loss, sick an hour after each shot and moody as hell. i'd walk by a plant and just want to rip it out of the pot just to be a dick. but that probley helped my bench too.

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    cycle is just a mess to be honest.

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    that helps me alot

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    20ml of prop will get you 40 days. 5 weeks. And then suspension will be gone in no time..... It has to be shot atleast 2x a day..... not eod.

    Hope that helps.

    How about you just do 4x vials of prop. You will get 80 days out of that. Like 2 1/2 months.

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    This is what i was gonna try but its prob not right thats why im asking.
    week 1 50mg eod test P
    week 2-5 100mg eod test P
    week 6 50mg eod test p/ 50mg twice daily test S
    pct 20-40mg nolva a day for a month

    What do you guys think i should change if this is in correct?
    Should i put the test s somewhere else in the cycle?
    Im trying to not spend much more money for this but can some.

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    Thats a good idea. i can get 20ml more test p i just have already got the suspension and hate not to use it

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    why did you get suspension?

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    Suspension... I would never even run unless i was like a damn prop... Prop ed or eod is more than enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceda26 View Post
    This is what i was gonna try but its prob not right thats why im asking.
    week 1 50mg eod test P
    week 2-5 100mg eod test P
    week 6 50mg eod test p/ 50mg twice daily test S
    pct 20-40mg nolva a day for a month

    What do you guys think i should change if this is in correct?
    Should i put the test s somewhere else in the cycle?
    Im trying to not spend much more money for this but can some.
    You dont want to go screwing with doses. Pick one dose.. 50mg eod would be low.. I would most definitely do 100mg eod. And do that for the whole cycle. no 50mg eod oen week and 100 mg eod next week... Bad for blood levels. you want to keep it stable.

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    the only place I see suspension being a viable substance is for pro athletes trying the cheat the testing system. I would never use it in typical cycles.

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    i thought i could ad it in. is it not possible? will it be useless? i dont even have to use it this time? This is why im asking. Will i be able to stack this and if so, how?

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    suspension needs to be shot several times a day, every day, and often hurts like a bitch. you could use it along side the prop near the beginning of the cycle I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c-Z View Post
    You dont want to go screwing with doses. Pick one dose.. 50mg eod would be low.. I would most definitely do 100mg eod. And do that for the whole cycle. no 50mg eod oen week and 100 mg eod next week... Bad for blood levels. you want to keep it stable.
    ok thanks. ill stick to 100mg eod

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    suspension needs to be shot several times a day, every day, and often hurts like a bitch. you could use it along side the prop near the beginning of the cycle I guess.
    i have been told prop doesnt feel that great either.

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    So no way to mix the suspension in safely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceda26 View Post
    i have been told prop doesnt feel that great either.
    if you were to take a shot of the prop, then smack yourself in the injection site with a hammer, that's what suspension feels like to me.
    if you want to try it, for the first 20 days do 50mg/day prop, split into 3 shots a day, in addition to the previously recommended prop cycle.

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    Shit are you trying to scare me.lol Cause thats what your doing. i did winstrol not too long ago and i was walking funny my sites hurt so bad. i was worried about working.

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    a buddy of mine had 50ml of susp he wanted to try, messed him up so bad he couldn't train well, offered to give it to me and I passed. Now prop affects some guys badly and I never have issues with prop, so try the suspension and see how you like it. if it cripples you, just don't use it.

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    Injectable winstrol is one of the most painful things to inject. If you've been through that I'm sure you'll be able to handle two weeks of suspension.

    I personally don't like suspension, but I know friends who enjoy shooting it pre-workout for added boosts, etc..

    w/ the gear you've got, this is basically what I would do...

    Prop (weeks 1 - 6) @ 100mg EOD
    Suspension (weeks 7 - 10) 25mg x 2 per day = 50mg ED.

    I would definitely run the prop first so that you get used to the pain, then finish off the cycle w/ suspension.

    Have fun.

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    Damn. well i'll see how it goes.
    so is this what i should do then
    Week 1-3 50mg prop/50mg sus a day if i can handle the pain
    week 3-6 100mg prop
    20-40mg nolva for a month

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    ya running them together with three pokes a day sounds harsh but im willing to be in pain if its going to bring the best results

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    the winstrol felt like i got shot in the ass repeatedly. my girl was making jokes about getting me a donut to sit on

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    i would also like to try injecting into my biceps if possible with either of these too. I usually stick two the same two spots because my girl hits me but i want more bicep definition ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceda26 View Post
    i would also like to try injecting into my biceps if possible with either of these too. I usually stick two the same two spots because my girl hits me but i want more bicep definition ????
    spot injecting doesn't make the area larger bro....

    (other then temporary swelling that might occur w/ prop & suspension)...

    You should be hitting a lot more injection sides then 2 if you're going to be running short esters. (otherwise scar tissue is going to be a big problem for you...)

    what about biceps, delts, glutes, and quads? pretty easy..

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    I'm still curious what your age and body fat is?

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    well i thought that dude that has the huge biceps that everyone talks about only hit hit biceps and thats how he did that. i have only hit two spot because im a puss i guess. my ass is the only spots ive ever hit and my girl had done 99 percent of it. i think she enjoys stabbing me.lol. No seriously

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    I'm still curious what your age and body fat is?
    im 26 and have an estimated 10 percent body fat

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    Honestly, I would try to get another 2 vials of prop.

    If you can't, then V-man's suggestion is your best bet.

    And definitely rotate injection sites, man. Especially if you're pinning EOD and then 2x ED. I would only add pecs to V-man's list of injection sites. Pecs are easy because you can see what you're doing.

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    damn. injecting by my heart sounds a little scary. i will definantly try to get two more vials tho.

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    you will definitely need more than 2 injection sites for short esters.

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