First Cycle

**Bvette** · 01-31-2010, 09:36 PM

Hello everyone just getting ready to hit my first cycle. I have ran 2 PH's before with great results. Looking for more info and input. I know many people don't stack two for there first cycle.

Stats
5'11
210
11% body fat

I am running Test E at 600 a week and EQ at 600 a week for ten weeks. I also am thinking about taking .25 of amiradex eod. I also see that some people run novla at 10mg a day also. Would you want to take both of would that be blocking to much? Post cycle would be clomid and novladex. Clomid at 100-50-50-50 and novla at 40-20-20-20. Like I said my first cycle looking for all the info I can obtain. Thanks for your time guys.

***D7M*** · 02-01-2010, 06:50 AM

How old are you?

**Bvette** · 02-01-2010, 02:37 PM

Oops forgot to say my age. I am 24 years old.

**chuckt12345** · 02-01-2010, 02:40 PM

if you want real help your gonna have to get clearer pic of gf.

i would stick with just the cyp for this go around. I would also just stick to the arimidex for problems you may encounter during cycle only if you need it. I dont believe people need to start throwing these extra AI blockers in there bodies for no reason.

**Bvette** · 02-01-2010, 02:57 PM

Lol I will work on a clear pic haha. It is test enanthate I will be running. I should just keep arimdex on hand and not start it unless gyno starts to show up?

**NEW_IN_THE_GAME** · 02-01-2010, 03:04 PM

I would just take the adex throughout the cycle, just my opinion and what i plan on doing.im 22 and am gunna do 12 weeks of test e myself starting april 1st

**Bvette** · 02-01-2010, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by NEW_IN_THE_GAME

I would just take the adex throughout the cycle, just my opinion and what i plan on doing.im 22 and am gunna do 12 weeks of test e myself starting april 1st

That is what I was thinking. Still think I am going to do the EQ with it. I know most guys don't for there first cycles. How much are you going to be taking?

**Bvette** · 02-01-2010, 06:36 PM

Does anyone else have any more input on this cycle? Open to hear anything willing to learn a lot of info. Does any of you guys ever run clen during the end of your cycle of during your pct? Thanks guys

**dasssboot** · 02-01-2010, 06:44 PM

my cousin is on a 25 week bulk cycle, 2500mg eq / 3000 mg test e each week. hes on his 7th week and he looks huge lol. run these numbers and you wont regret it lol

**Bvette** · 02-01-2010, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by dasssboot

my cousin is on a 25 week bulk cycle, 2500mg eq / 3000 mg test e each week. hes on his 7th week and he looks huge lol. run these numbers and you wont regret it lol

Keep in mind this is my first cycle!! those numbers are just crazy.

**dasssboot** · 02-01-2010, 06:54 PM

lol yeahhh i forgot about that. i took eq and test e. i loved the cycle. if your going to run this cycle i wouldnt run it anything less then 16- 20 weeks. cause the e.q. kicks in around week 10... when i started out i was taking the same dosage as you then i uped it to 1500 mgs test 1200 e.q. and worked out great.

**Bvette** · 02-01-2010, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by dasssboot

lol yeahhh i forgot about that. i took eq and test e. i loved the cycle. if your going to run this cycle i wouldnt run it anything less then 16- 20 weeks. cause the e.q. kicks in around week 10... when i started out i was taking the same dosage as you then i uped it to 1500 mgs test 1200 e.q. and worked out great.

Is that what you were taking for your first cycle? That seems like a long time to run them for my first go around. I thought that EQ kicks in around four weeks and the test in 2 or 3 weeks. Thanks for all the help so far.

**bjohnson1968** · 02-02-2010, 09:13 AM

personally I'd follow the advice on here and run the test only I'm sure you'd get great results imho but it looks like you got your stuff in order i dont think i'd run the test any longer might the eq I'd run at least 12 weeks

**Bvette** · 02-02-2010, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by bjohnson1968

personally I'd follow the advice on here and run the test only I'm sure you'd get great results imho but it looks like you got your stuff in order i dont think i'd run the test any longer might the eq I'd run at least 12 weeks

Wouldn't I be better running test longer since test E has a longer half life? I see some guys will run test a week longer or 2 weeks longer the EQ. I know to start pct 2 weeks after my last shot. So if I ran EQ longer than my test wouldn't I run into problems when coming to pct? Like I said I am new to all of this just figuring it all out before I start. Plan on starting in around a month. Thanks for all the help so far guys.

**pakroids** · 02-02-2010, 04:26 PM

jm2cents but stick w/ one compound first cycle simply b/c if u have sides youll know whats causing it .
Doing 3rd cycle now , and yes got through the dreaded deca , even though i did get deca di@k just rambling now .
At your weight 600 mg test e. isnt gonna hurt you but start low and grow to a higher level as your body sees fit .
post script- telling some1 to do 3gm test e. and 2.5 gm eq, first cycle as well , wtf...
p.p.s. - dont go longer than 12 weeks first cycle, see how you recover then go from there. i remember after my second cycle w/ deca my balls still felt it even after pct.
and get all your pct stuff nowww!!!

**bigpapabuff** · 02-02-2010, 04:34 PM

definitely get your pct now, go with some liquid clomid and nolva, you could also look into running exemestane during cycle, and some people like running clen during cycle, but i don't know how much it helps.

BG · 02-02-2010, 04:38 PM

I wouldnt go any higher then 400 mgs with the test, thats all you need. You look like your in great shape , all that extra test is going to do is give you more water retention taking away from your physic and making the hardness from the EQ unnoticeable.

In all honesty, I would recommend 300/700 test/eq.

**Bvette** · 02-02-2010, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by pakroids

jm2cents but stick w/ one compound first cycle simply b/c if u have sides youll know whats causing it .
Doing 3rd cycle now , and yes got through the dreaded deca , even though i did get deca di@k just rambling now .
At your weight 600 mg test e. isnt gonna hurt you but start low and grow to a higher level as your body sees fit .
post script- telling some1 to do 3gm test e. and 2.5 gm eq, first cycle as well , wtf...
p.p.s. - dont go longer than 12 weeks first cycle, see how you recover then go from there. i remember after my second cycle w/ deca my balls still felt it even after pct.
and get all your pct stuff nowww!!!

If I just run test at 600mg and not run the EQ could I run M-drol for 4 weeks to kick start it?

**Bvette** · 02-02-2010, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by bigpapabuff

definitely get your pct now, go with some liquid clomid and nolva, you could also look into running exemestane during cycle, and some people like running clen during cycle, but i don't know how much it helps.

I will have my PCT before I even think about starting. Clomid at 100-50-50-50 and the novla at 40-20-20-20. I also think I am going to run clen with the pct.

**Bvette** · 02-02-2010, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by BG

I wouldnt go any higher then 400 mgs with the test, thats all you need. You look like your in great shape , all that extra test is going to do is give you more water retention taking away from your physic and making the hardness from the EQ unnoticeable.

In all honesty, I would recommend 300/700 test/eq.

So if I take out the EQ do you think it would be okay to run test at 600 a week. Also could I kick start it off with M-drol? IF I decide to run Test E and the EQ how would my gains be at 300 test and 600 EQ? Thanks for the help

**Bvette** · 02-03-2010, 10:51 AM

Does anyone run M-drol to start just a test cycle?

**theryano** · 02-03-2010, 11:20 AM

running the clen....is a very good idea....healthy is the best outcome

**Bvette** · 02-03-2010, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by theryano

running the clen....is a very good idea....healthy is the best outcome

Yes I was thinking about running clen for 4 weeks with my pct. I was going to run it like this guy was.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...light=clen+faq

I am still on the fence if I should just stick with test and leave the eq out. I have 2 PH's under my belt but I know ph's and test and eq are way different for each other. That is why If I run test only I wonder if I could kick start it with M-drol. Thanks for the feed back on the clen. How would you run it?

**Bvette** · 02-03-2010, 07:02 PM

BUMP

**Oakleys** · 02-04-2010, 02:20 AM

Hey bro check this out.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

You can run Adex EOD .25, to be safe, and/or to help bloating.

Run test as your first cycle. If you want a second, try some Dbol.

http://www.ar-r.com/research-chemica...mox-combo.html

**Bvette** · 02-04-2010, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Oakleys

Hey bro check this out.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

You can run Adex EOD .25, to be safe, and/or to help bloating.

Run test as your first cycle. If you want a second, try some Dbol.

http://www.ar-r.com/research-chemica...mox-combo.html

Thanks for the info. I was just wondering since I had m-drol around the house if I could kick start it instead of D-bol. I will probably jsut run test and save the EQ fpr my second cycle someday. Also people talk about this liv52 I always cycle assist. I was wondering how they compare with each other. I will try to find more facts on the liv52

**Bvette** · 02-04-2010, 10:18 PM

Well I guess running M-drol is not a good idea lol. I will try to kick start it with some D-bol if my source can get some. Thanks for all the info so far guys. I am leaning towards just d-bol and test E at 600 instead of 600 of test e and 600 EQ. Probably should leave the EQ for the next one.

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