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    the_first_timer is offline New Member
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    First cycle questions

    Hey guys,

    This is my first post on any steroid forum, so I’m gonna do my best to not get flamed!

    Age 21
    Height 6’ ½”
    Weight 188 pounds / 85 kg’s
    BF % 11%

    Training experience: Have been working out consistently for 2.5 years (5 times a week). And whilst it is not gym, I have had very sport orientated teenage years, through competitive Rowing, Athletics and Soccer.

    PCT knowledge: This is where I need help...


    An example of my diet is as follows:

    Meal 1: Porridge
    Protein shake

    Meal 2: 4 chicken thighs, large serve rice

    Meal 3: Baked beans or Pasta (with a meat sauce)

    Pre workout: 4 chicken thighs, large serve rice
    (Roughly an hour before workout)

    Post workout: Protein shake (double serve)
    Cell-tech (Creatine)

    Meal 6: Steak, sausages, salad

    Meal 7: Yoghurt, fruit

    Meal 8: Protein shake


    Ok. I hope I’ve covered everything I need to – if not, please say!

    I’ve read and read and read on here, but still are unsure about a few things.

    I’m in Australia, and have found it extremely hard to find gear over the last 5 months.

    What I have found, is:
    - Primoteston Depot 250
    - Pregnyl (HCG)

    I was thinking about running Primo 500mg / week, for 12 weeks.

    What I need explaining though, is PCT.

    I gathered from some forums that Pregnyl was used in PCT, and then from other forums I gathered that Pregnyl was useless?
    From what I understand, Nolva is the primary thing I should be trying to get. The only problem is, I’m not confident I will be able to find it.

    So, my questions are:

    - Am I covered with just Pregnyl? Or do I HAVE to find something like Nolva?

    - If I am ok with just Pregnyl
    * Is it best to be used during my cycle or after my cycle (like PCT is run)
    * What dosages should I be looking at?

    - If I am not ok with just Pregnyl, and I need to incorporate Nolva
    * How should I use the Pregnyl, and how should I use the Nolva
    * Can you please give me a list of alternatives for me to find, if I cannot
    source Nolva, other than Clomid?

    - What are your thoughts on Primo vs. Sus?
    * I can definitely get Primo, but there’s a slight chance I may be able to get Sus.
    * What are the major differences between the two?
    * If I can’t get the Sus, is Primo still an ok form of test?


    In no way am I hinting at a source here. I am only trying to tell you guys everything so I can get the best advice possible!


    I know this is a lengthy post, but I wanted to make sure I put everything down correctly the first time. Thankyou in advance for any replies... I appreciate your help!

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    Your to young to start steroids ,
    Your diet needs alot of work, go down to the diet section and get them to re-design it, this will build more muscle,
    Read this AAS: Things to consider before starting a first cycle

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    Thanks marcus, I will ask the guys in the diet section

    I want to do it properly, so will fix my diet and stick to that for at least the next six months.

    However, as I'm finding it ridiculously hard to get my hands on gear, I think I am going to buy it while I can (and hold off another six months to a year).

    Providing my diet is on track for the rest of the year, would you please be able to answer some of my questions so that I can ensure I get my gear while I can?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_first_timer View Post
    Thanks marcus, I will ask the guys in the diet section

    I want to do it properly, so will fix my diet and stick to that for at least the next six months.
    However, as I'm finding it ridiculously hard to get my hands on gear, I think I am going to buy it while I can (and hold off another six months to a year).

    Providing my diet is on track for the rest of the year, would you please be able to answer some of my questions so that I can ensure I get my gear while I can?
    No, at least 2-3 years best of luck

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    the_first_timer is offline New Member
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    I can already pre-empt your reply...

    Six months is not long enough?

    Any answers would be greatly appreciated...

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    You beat me to it haha.

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    You got it, change your diet because and use what you have naturally which is a high level of Testosterone , wait till your around 24-25yrs old, read the link i sent.

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