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    My 1st cycle

    I have been training for 10 years, am 1,90cm tall and have 90kilograms.
    I have decided to do my first cycle, which will be the following:


    week 1 to 10: Enanthate Test (600mg once a week)
    week 1 to 4: Turinabol (50mg every day)

    week 1 to 10: Tamoxifeno (10mg every day)

    TPC
    week 11 and 12: Clomid 100mg a day
    week 13 and 14: Clomid 50mg a day


    week 11 and 12: Tamoxifeno a 40mg por dia
    week 13 and 14: Tamoxifeno a 20mg por dia




    Questions:
    1- will i nedd HCG ? If so, how?
    2- will the gyno question be well covered?

    Any aditional remarks are welcome.
    thank you

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    190cm? dam thats tall. And you weigh 90kg? You should not be looking at steroids . You can achieve much more naturally with diet and proper training.

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    6'1 almost 200lbs isnt that bad? I have seen much much worse....

    How old are you op?

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    i am 27 years old.

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    Cut your test down to 400-500mgs per week and start pct 14 days after last injection and start nolva 40/20/20/20 clomid 100/50/50/50

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    thnk you very much Marcus.
    Is the gyno question covered by using Tamoxifen ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitbullforte View Post
    thnk you very much Marcus.
    Is the gyno question covered by using Tamoxifen?
    You should have an aromataze inhibitor instead of nolvadex to use while on cycle. And then again only use it if needed. You might not be estrogen sensitive. What's your bodyfat at? Do you have a steady diet? If so post it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aizen Sosuke View Post
    You should have an aromataze inhibitor instead of nolvadex to use while on cycle. And then again only use it if needed. You might not be estrogen sensitive. What's your bodyfat at? Do you have a steady diet? If so post it.
    I agree.

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    I have a steady diet and have medium-low BF.
    Should i use letrozole instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitbullforte View Post
    I have a steady diet and have medium-low BF.
    Should i use letrozole instead?
    Do you have gyno? If not why would you use letro?? You could use some hcg during cycle but if you do you will need an AI also. The hcg could be run at 125ius x2 a week. Stop the hcg the day before pct and then follow Marcus's suggested pct of clomid/nolva.

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    these are tthe specs of my needles:
    21G x 1 1/2"
    0,80x40mm

    are they ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Cut your test down to 400-500mgs per week and start pct 14 days after last injection and start nolva 40/20/20/20 clomid 100/50/50/50
    x2 agreed

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    Will cut down the test next monday ( 2 week take) and will also do the PCT as said.

    Quote Originally Posted by jjredd View Post
    x2 agreed

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    Just did the above stated ( took yesterday a shot of 500 mg).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitbullforte View Post
    Just did the above stated ( took yesterday a shot of 500 mg).
    You may be better off splitting the weekly dose up into 250mgs shots mon and Thu

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    here is my evolution so far:
    day 1 of cyle: 89 kgs

    10 february 2010 - wednesday (2º week): 92,5kgs

    17 february 2010 - wednesday ( 3ªweek): 93.6 kgs

    26 february 2010 - friday (4º week): 96 kgs




    I have finished the turanibol dosage and was adviced on putting Anavar ( 20mg/day) or primobolan ( 100mg x 4 / week) or Winstrol ( no advice on quantity) on the 4 final weeks of the cycle.
    What is your opinion?

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    any advice?

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