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    Injecting small amounts (and wasting it)

    I'm doing a 90-day cycle, and I've done 30 days of it so far.

    My balls have already shrunk a little.

    I received my hCG today. I bought two 5000iu vials of it.

    I added about 3.5 ml of bacteriostatic water to one of the vials, so I've got a concentration of about 140iu per 0.1ml.

    Using an insulin syringe, I inject about 0.2ml of it subcutaneously into the fat on my stomach.

    I see two little problems though:
    1: Since I'm injecting such a small amount, a high percentage of it gets wasted in the needle and never gets injected into me.
    2: I bleed out a little bit, so maybe the hCG bleeds out of me too.


    Should I dilute my hCG more so that I can inject a larger amount at once?

    By the way, it also stings like a mother****er when I push the stuff in. Is that normal? I don't get any stinging at all when I do intramuscular injection of stuff like Test and Deca .

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    If there's room in the vial add more B water. It will decrease any chances of waste and make dosing more accurate.

    Ive had the HCG stinging before too. It's not the water because my GH does not sting mixed with bacteriostatic water.

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    When I make small sub q injections, I will draw a tiny bubble of air into the syringe and flick the syringe so that the little air bubble is at the top of the compound being injected, so upon injecting all of the compound is injected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    When I make small sub q injections, I will draw a tiny bubble of air into the syringe and flick the syringe so that the little air bubble is at the top of the compound being injected, so upon injecting all of the compound is injected.
    You flick the syringe so that the air bubble is at the plunger side of the syringe (instead of the needle side). Is that right? I hadn't thought of that.

    What happens if you inject a tiny little bit of air into your sub-q fat? Is it a problem at all?

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    Yes so the air is at the plunger side. To cause an air embolism, upwards of 15cc of air would have to be injected directly into a vein. With the size of a slin pin and the size of the tiny air bubble, injecting a bit of air sub q would cause no issue at all. Bear in mind that you only want to draw enough air to clear the syringe of the compound being injected, which takes very little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    Yes so the air is at the plunger side. To cause an air embolism, upwards of 15cc of air would have to be injected directly into a vein. With the size of a slin pin and the size of the tiny air bubble, injecting a bit of air sub q would cause no issue at all. Bear in mind that you only want to draw enough air to clear the syringe of the compound being injected, which takes very little.
    Great stuff, thanks!

    I did an injection just there and I did it exactly as you described, I had the bubble of air at the plunger side of the syringe, so all of the liquid was pushed into me, there was none left in the needle.

    I think I still might dilute my hCG a bit more though just to get the dosing more accurate, and also to minimise the waste (because even if I waste as little as 0.05ml per injection then I'm wasting about one third of my hCG!).

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    One other thing, I wish I had known in advance that there's a massive vacuum inside those hCG vials!

    I loaded about 2.5ml of bacteriostatic water into a syringe and I stuck the needle into the hCG vial. I was about to push the plunger, but then I realised the syringe was empty! The vacuum in the vial had already sucked the entire 2.5ml into the vial as soon as I pushed the needle through the rubber!

    Anyway I'll know next time.

    Since my balls are already shrunk a bit, I'm gonna take about 400iu per day for a few days until I see some size return, and then I'll knock the dosage down to about 150iu per day just to keep my balls alive for the rest of my cycle.

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    I had the same issue using such a little amount of water,i opted to use 10ml of water and that means each ml is 500iu.

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