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    Goint to be doing tren a and prop. in a few months. I am new to both so i cant help there sorry.

    Do you have a problem pinning that often?

    I am just going to deal with the pain that is part of it. I am more worried about the tren sides then the prop. pain..

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    test prop and tren ace is a good combo for many reasons, both cause very little water retention, both are short esters so can be pinned together, if sides get to be to much they should be out of your system in afew days. they complement eachother very well.

    prop can be painfull depending on the concentration, but most of the ones ive used arent. plus when mixing it with tran in the same shot it will disapate the BA and usually hurt less. you can also run the vials under some warm water for a min or two to get whatever crystals are in there back into solution. that will help with the pain also.


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    Great question and thread cause I'm about to do the same cycle but I'm going to hb both of them if I can come up with the supplies to brew the test prop. I'm thinking of doing a higher dose of tren than prop. I wasnt going to do the prop at all until I started reading a bunch of threads saying thats it is a most? looking forward to see what else is said!

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    Cmon guys. Let's get a good thread going here. I searched, and there isn't something like this out there. It'd be good for people to know.

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    Test e stacks well with basically anything and is and should be the foundation to any cycle. Pin it 2 x week for stable blood levels.

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    Regarding being having your blood levels stable it would all depend on freq of injections. Prop is recommend to be done ED to EOD, ED is better. Test E is recommended every 3.5, if you keep with the recommend injections there shouldn't be much fluxuation in you blood levels.
    Regarding pain, pain depends on who made your prop. I had pain in virgin muscles but after a few cycle there is hardly any pain.
    How many cycles have you done?

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    Problem with running Tren Ace with Test E is the Tren will kick in b4 the Test E. Your either going to have to start the Test e about 4 weeks befire the Tren or use Prop.

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    Wouldn't 1 week to 2 weeks be a better start b/c it will still take about a week for the tren a to really kick in. ANd by then your test would aleast be above base line enough for the tren not to fully catibolic.

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    Thanks dude.

    Quote Originally Posted by MotoLifter View Post
    test prop and tren ace is a good combo for many reasons, both cause very little water retention, both are short esters so can be pinned together, if sides get to be to much they should be out of your system in afew days. they complement eachother very well.

    prop can be painfull depending on the concentration, but most of the ones ive used arent. plus when mixing it with tran in the same shot it will disapate the BA and usually hurt less. you can also run the vials under some warm water for a min or two to get whatever crystals are in there back into solution. that will help with the pain also.


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    Quote Originally Posted by omna82 View Post
    Test e stacks well with basically anything and is and should be the foundation to any cycle. Pin it 2 x week for stable blood levels.
    Thanks man

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    Quote Originally Posted by JinNtonic View Post
    Problem with running Tren Ace with Test E is the Tren will kick in b4 the Test E. Your either going to have to start the Test e about 4 weeks befire the Tren or use Prop.
    Ok, thanks, so it looks like prop is the way to go and just hope it doesn't hurt... Is prop brewed from Synovex using a good method in the forum tend to be painful?

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    test prop + boldenone eq?

    test prop + tren ?

    which one is better ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by armen1an View Post
    test prop + boldenone eq?

    test prop + tren ?

    which one is better ?
    ^^^ No need to hijack another thread because you are not getting replies within a few minutes, you will get the right advice in time and trust me it will be that you need to smarten up with the research while you wait untill you are older. Learn how to eat and train properly and stay the F#*K AWAY FROM TREN with the very little experience you have...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandelay View Post
    What wopuld you guys recommend for dosage if I'm goin with...

    Tren Ace @ 50 EOD

    Test Prop @ 100 EOD

    Does that look good?

    Should I up the prop?
    Start there and you can up the dosage if you dont get the results you want.

    The prop dose is fine and I am sure you can run it thru the whole thing.
    The tren dose is a little low,but as I said you can up it to 75mg after 4 weeks time. I have done 100mg eod with great results and little sides.

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    I agree. Ive ran test e with alot of tren . cycles with great results. I can deal with the tren injects eod but not the test prop. Its not worth it to me. 2x a week of test e works just as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by omna82 View Post
    Test e stacks well with basically anything and is and should be the foundation to any cycle. Pin it 2 x week for stable blood levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzo3816 View Post
    ^^^ No need to hijack another thread because you are not getting replies within a few minutes, you will get the right advice in time and trust me it will be that you need to smarten up with the research while you wait untill you are older. Learn how to eat and train properly and stay the F#*K AWAY FROM TREN with the very little experience you have...
    Thanks man, lol we've got a live one huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandelay View Post
    Yeah, that's what I figured I'd do from stuff that I've read in searches. You think it's worth it to start at 75 though and taper up or down from there bro?

    And why 4 weeks?

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    Better to start out a little low and then increase if you are feeling good.
    Taper back down if sides get to much.
    I did 100mg eod for almost 9 weeks straight throu and felt good,just a little few sides.

    4 weeks is not a must,go by feel.

    Tren is some wicked shit. Good luck and stay cool.

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    ok ty...
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    good info here fellas..im goin with the same cycle in a couple months excited as shit to do it too...gl on urs bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlefella View Post
    good info here fellas..im goin with the same cycle in a couple months excited as shit to do it too...gl on urs bro
    You too!

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    If you are going to be pinning EOD anyways why not just run the prop so it will kick in with the tren ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandelay View Post
    In a question of splittin an eod dose of tren A and test prop to ed.....


    Anyone know of any advantages OR disadvantages between ed and eod pins??


    Is there any difference in affects between the two?


    Thanks again! Have a great weekend fellas...
    Yes there is a difference, more stable blood levels and less sides...

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    I'm starting to shoot a similar cycle Test E with my Tren ace. But in the same pin. I'll be taking 500mg of test split. Hence 125mg of test every other day.
    My Plan is
    Week 1-3 or their about... 250mg Test E every three days.
    Week 4... 125mg of Test E EOD and introduce tren tren ace at 50mg EOD (mon, wed, fri, sun, tue etc)
    So my pins will have 125mg of Test E and 50mg of tren.
    I've asked questions about this and read posts saying this can help with blood levels.

    PLEASE CORRECT me if this is all cod shit and I’ve been misinformed. Seems sensible enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty_4 View Post
    I'm starting to shoot a similar cycle Test E with my Tren ace. But in the same pin. I'll be taking 500mg of test split. Hence 125mg of test every other day.
    My Plan is
    Week 1-3 or their about... 250mg Test E every three days.
    Week 4... 125mg of Test E EOD and introduce tren tren ace at 50mg EOD (mon, wed, fri, sun, tue etc)
    So my pins will have 125mg of Test E and 50mg of tren.
    I've asked questions about this and read posts saying this can help with blood levels.

    PLEASE CORRECT me if this is all cod shit and I’ve been misinformed. Seems sensible enough.

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    It would be best to start your own thread to help you out with questions because by the looks of it with will be a few

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