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    is it ok to increase test e cycle to 14 weeks?

    I know cycles shouldn't be anymore then 12 weeks but all I’m on is test e 500mg without a kick starter, and although it has increased my gains, basically my bench is from 175 to almost 220 now on almost week 6 I think, I still feel the test e hasn't quite taken full effect yet although its starting to. so anyways the question is, would it be a big deal to increase the cycle length from 11 weeks to 13 or 14 weeks?

    my pct is nolvadex 20mg everyday for 4 weeks with clomid week 1 150 mg ed, week 2 100mg ed and week 2-4 50mg ed.

    btw I know you guys think I should have trained longer before cycling. but I think as long as you understand the risks perfectly; waiting 2-3 years to reach your natty max or at least near it and then cycle is kind of like telling a chick she should lose 50 pounds before she gets plastic surgery, I understood the sides, risks, perfectly well etc and I made the choice do the cycle, and I feel that is my most powerful justification.
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    As long as your still making gains at the 12 week point then I don't see why not. Most people have their gains falter around week 10/11 then stop by week 12. Just don't extend it for the saking of extending it because you want to stay on.

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    Lots of people run their cycles anywhere from 12-16 weeks. There are also plenty of people that run 6 weekers (with short esters) and people that stay on for 6 months+. (Though I'd personally be unwilling to risk that last one.)

    So, no, there's nothing evil about a simple 500mg test e cycle that long.
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    I wouldnt run it any longer than 12 weeks. In order to keep making gains you would have to up the dosage after 8 weeks or so IMO. gl

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaGenetics View Post
    I wouldnt run it any longer than 12 weeks. In order to keep making gains you would have to up the dosage after 8 weeks or so IMO. gl
    That doesn't make any sense, having to up the test after 8 weeks. 500mg should put his test way higher than it is normally and since it seems he's no where near being very well developed, I don't see why his gains will magically stop due to the testosterone not being further increased. (I could be wrong, but at first glance it doesn't look right.)

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    I just hope for you your next thread will not be:
    "is it ok to increase test e cycle to 16 weeks?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovestospooge23 View Post
    I know cycles shouldn't be anymore then 12 weeks but all I’m on is test e 500mg without a kick starter, and although it has increased my gains, basically my bench is from 175 to almost 220 now on almost week 6 I think, I still feel the test e hasn't quite taken full effect yet although its starting to. so anyways the question is, would it be a big deal to increase the cycle length from 11 weeks to 13 or 14 weeks?

    my pct is nolvadex 20mg everyday for 4 weeks with clomid week 1 150 mg ed, week 2 100mg ed and week 2-4 50mg ed.

    btw I know you guys think I should have trained longer before cycling. but I think as long as you understand the risks perfectly; waiting 2-3 years to reach your natty max or at least near it and then cycle is kind of like telling a chick she should lose 50 pounds before she gets plastic surgery, I understood the sides, risks, perfectly well etc and I made the choice do the cycle, and I feel that is my most powerful justification.

    IMHO you should be no where near AAS!!!
    A 175lb bench max???? Now 220??? you need to get your training and diet down first

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauced_Up View Post
    IMHO you should be no where near AAS!!!
    A 175lb bench max???? Now 220??? you need to get your training and diet down first
    I agree. I also know a lot of dudes whose bench is just shit. They rely on other chest exercises for that area.

    I'm hoping you have long ass arms lol

    How long have you been in the gym?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiwanguy View Post
    That doesn't make any sense, having to up the test after 8 weeks. 500mg should put his test way higher than it is normally and since it seems he's no where near being very well developed, I don't see why his gains will magically stop due to the testosterone not being further increased. (I could be wrong, but at first glance it doesn't look right.)
    After 8 weeks of so your body grows used to the hormone levels according to Ronnie Rowlands "sling shot training" theory. Its the second thread in this section and is very informative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauced_Up View Post
    IMHO you should be no where near AAS!!!
    A 175lb bench max???? Now 220??? you need to get your training and diet down first
    a 175 to 220 in 6 weeks of a test e only 500mg a week cycle, especially considering the fact its only just starting to really take full effect i think is pretty decent, and i've been going to a gym on and off for over 8 years its just that i haven't lifted at a gym in a few yrs. the average person can only do maybe 5 pounds on their bench every two weeks including me. if u calculate the averages on that 6 week period i am now doing 15 pounds every two weeks, so that means so far i have gained about 3 times faster then i do natty, u don't think thats decent on a low dose of steroids?. as long as a person has his training and a decent diet going its not that big of a deal where he starts out, infact because ill probably be benching like 250-270 at the end of the cycle, whereas some ppl are doing 450, it should be much easier for me to maintain the gains. i'll say this again.... i understood the risks perfectly, i understood that many ppl feel u should wait 2-3 years b4 u start training, but hey some people including me feel its justified to to get the plastic surgery before losing the weight as long as u have a good doctor and doctor translated to weightlifting and steroids is a decent diet and workout routine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakleys View Post
    I agree. I also know a lot of dudes whose bench is just shit. They rely on other chest exercises for that area.

    I'm hoping you have long ass arms lol

    How long have you been in the gym?
    i dunno about long ass arms but i do have long arms and i guess that probably effects me on about a 10-15 pound difference. as long as im gaining decent, eating right training right, and using steroids right especially considering the fact that im on a low dose... who cares if i only benched 175 at the start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    I just hope for you your next thread will not be:
    "is it ok to increase test e cycle to 16 weeks?"
    it won't
    actually i think im prolly just gonna do 12 weeks by replace the 2 vials that i accidently broke

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaGenetics View Post
    After 8 weeks of so your body grows used to the hormone levels according to Ronnie Rowlands "sling shot training" theory. Its the second thread in this section and is very informative.
    it think the 8 week time period is only if a kickstart like d-bol or a short ester steroid is included in the cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovestospooge23 View Post
    a 175 to 220 in 6 weeks of a test e only 500mg a week cycle, especially considering the fact its only just starting to really take full effect i think is pretty decent, and i've been going to a gym on and off for over 8 years its just that i haven't lifted at a gym in a few yrs. the average person can only do maybe 5 pounds on their bench every two weeks including me. if u calculate the averages on that 6 week period i am now doing 15 pounds every two weeks, so that means so far i have gained about 3 times faster then i do natty, u don't think thats decent on a low dose of steroids?. as long as a person has his training and a decent diet going its not that big of a deal where he starts out, infact because ill probably be benching like 250-270 at the end of the cycle, whereas some ppl are doing 450, it should be much easier for me to maintain the gains. i'll say this again.... i understood the risks perfectly, i understood that many ppl feel u should wait 2-3 years b4 u start training, but hey some people including me feel its justified to to get the plastic surgery before losing the weight as long as u have a good doctor and doctor translated to weightlifting and steroids is a decent diet and workout routine.


    Dude im not saying thats not some good gains in 6 weeks.... Im saying that 175lbs is VERY LIGHT to be someones max, which means your either very young(15-17) or you never workout/eat correctly. Thats the type of weight my lil bro does and hes only 17.

    Thats why I said "IMHO" cause its my opinion with those stats alone you had much more to work on and your using gear to make up for your lack of will....

    Either way good luck...
    im out

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    Don't worry about chest workout to be honest, I only do 220 pounds also and I'm 215lbs, and as long as your doing them properly, and using your maximum force pushing them up, and doing a slow drop down, and not bouncing at bottom, you should be good.

    Having a 400 benchpress is worth nothing if you can't do it properly.

    gl with cycle

    n to extend your cycle, you can but it's more then likely pointless, and will be harsher on your system, risk vs benefits .
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    ya dont let people bother you about your bench. or any lift for that matter.

    some people can lift a lot naturally. some people could probably bench more than 175lbs their FIRST times in a gym. that doesnt mean they passed some imaginary test to be able to use test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauced_Up View Post
    IMHO you should be no where near AAS!!!
    A 175lb bench max???? Now 220??? you need to get your training and diet down first
    Took the words right out of my mouth.


    Benching 175 and using AAS. You're an idiot

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    Is that 175lb including the bar weight (which is 45lb) or excluding the bar weight?

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    If you are still seeing gains the yes its OK 14wks is not a long cycle. Just remember that the longer you stay on, the longer you you will have to stay off, so there is no way to beat the system really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovestospooge23 View Post
    and i've been going to a gym on and off for over 8 years its just that i haven't lifted at a gym in a few yrs.
    so youre taking steriod after a 2 year lay off? how long have you been training seriously before you started your cycle? if you are coming in completely fresh you are wasting the cycle.

    why wouldnt you wait until the end when you need the extra kick to get your body to the next level instead of doing the surgery upfront and wasting the results?

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    As long as your making solid gains keep on it. No point to quit it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellawaits77 View Post
    Took the words right out of my mouth.


    Benching 175 and using AAS. You're an idiot

    LMAO dude are you serious benching 175lbs? Not to be a dick but seriously bro thats pretty bad, you dont need steroids you need to get your diet in check and do some more training. Something isnt right.

    I havent cycled or trained real hard in 3 years and in week 4 I'm already benching 300 raw using 600mg of Enth no kicker, up from 240.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunns420 View Post
    LMAO dude are you serious benching 175lbs? Not to be a dick but seriously bro thats pretty bad, you dont need steroids you need to get your diet in check and do some more training. Something isnt right.

    I havent cycled or trained real hard in 3 years and in week 4 I'm already benching 300 raw using 600mg of Enth no kicker, up from 240.
    I agree, he definitely needs to sort out his training big time IMO steroids are the last step not the first.

    AAS are used to get you over plateaus not as a crutch in place of good hard training. You should easily be able to get a 275-315 lb bench naturally very easily. If at that point you still want to use to get a little more thats different

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    I know alot of dudes who wouldnt even work out just take steroids and expect to get huge, never worrying about diet, etc. Then after 12 weeks wonder why nothing has really happened and if the gear is fake blah blah blah.

    You get what you put into it when in comes to juicin', bottom line. Sure the Test will make you feel good but thats not the point. Start eating more protein & carbs beef it up if you can.

    Are you sure the gear is real lol

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