help with testosterone ethanate!!!!

[shanerik]

I'm going to start taking testosterone ethanate(1 ml a week) and wanted to know if I can take the lukic and gakic stack (from muscletech) along with the test ethanate? Thank you.
Erik

[Phate]

I'm going to start taking testosterone ethanate(1 ml a week) and wanted to know if I can take the lukic and gakic stack (from muscletech) along with the test ethanate? Thank you.
Erik

stats?
age
weight
bf%
cycle exp: i'm guessing none
training exp:
pct?
diet?

[Marty_4]

What's the 1ml dosed @?

[shanerik]

1 ml a week for 10 weeks.

[shanerik]

I'm 6'3' 290 lbs. Overweight. 29yrs old. I've lifted off and on for years. I've started eating pretty clean, lots of protein and veggies. How much protein should I have a day?

[Marty_4]

I mean how many mg/ml? How mg of test is in the 1ml it will day on the side of the amp or vial. Something like 250mg/ml

[shanerik]

Oh sry, its 250 mg.

[sigman roid]

when you say over weight do you know your bf%?,Im betting at 290lbs you have alot of body fat.

[Marty_4]

What are you using the test for? What's the reason for wanting to use it?

[shanerik]

I'm not sure what my bf% is but I'm sure its high. I do have decent muscle at the same time, if that makes sense. I'm using it to put size on.I also read that it reduces fat

[Marty_4]

Have a look at steroid.com.
I’ve only done two cycles by the way I’ll tell you that first. And after been on here a bit you'll have drummed into you that Anabolics won't just take fat off ya. Diet is the key. Although I will advise you look into maybe ephedrine and maybe Clen.
Clen I don't know a great deal about but I’ve done many many cycles of ephedrine ECA stacks with great results for weight loss. When I was 20 it helped me train that much that I noticed a really good increase in body tone and strength from just that. Like a buzz from trying harder type thing. It might be good for you to try just that first.
It’s a good idea to either pick to bulk up or cut (if you have the muscle and tone to cut on), you need as you’ll have to eat loads more to feed muscle and I know my first cycle I over ate. Just read, read and read mate. And ask questions, they will give you answers to any questions you ask, weather you think it’s daft or not… Knowledge is “POWER” pardon the pun ha.
Stay cool.
Regards
Marty

[Marty_4]

And get a body fat check. this is what you should go by to see what's happeing. ha ha well apart from strengh also lol

[firsttimer555]

you should not do any aas until you get your diet and cardio in check

[shanerik]

Well I apprec. All the help and info. I mainly want to put size on. Ill worry about cutting later. I also have put my diet in check, and cardio I'm working on. So I'm still wanting to know about taking the gakic and lukis with test!!!!????

[HuntMan]

Using AAS with a high BF can actually give you more health problems than before.. Sorry bro its not for you and you could seriously harm your body by using it a a BF% higher than 18..most people recommend 15% as the highest before considering usage of AAS.. You sides can be a lot worse.. YOu need to learn how to eat clean for a while and research before you take anything or you can harm yourself..sorry thats not what you wanted to hear but its the truth..

[HuntMan]

IMO , that S*** is a waste a money..Thats like sixty bucks a bottle bro.. take that 120dollars and go to the Freakin Grocery store and buy FOOD!! AAS is not gonna help you bro..Diet and CArdio thats it!!! drop your Bf and loose the weight..You will be dissapointed trust me...And you could become more unhealthy by using anyways.

[shanerik]

Wow really? Ok then ill keep eatin right and working out and lose the weight first. How much protein should I be takin a day while lifting? And no I didn't. Want to hear that...lol. but thanks. I would rather wait and do it right.

[Marty_4]

Nice one shanerik.
I'm in a similar boat dude. I've had a test e, tren, winstrol cycle planned to start 2 weeks on Monday. Research, listening and learning now means it's all changed because I’m not ready for tren.
I rushed in and now I’ve got hundreds of pounds worth or gear I’m not going to be using yet and none of the gear I need that I can’t right now get. Won't be ready for holiday, starting the cycle and more money to spend etc etc ect. All part of it I suppose. Don't go rushing in! I have and now I look like a T**T lol.
Stay well Dude. Let me know how it goes
Marty

[shanerik]

Wow really? Ok then ill keep eatin right and working out and lose the weight first. How much protein should I be takin a day while lifting? And no I didn't. Want to hear that...lol. but thanks. I would rather wait and do it right.

[chuckt12345]

Wow really? Ok then ill keep eatin right and working out and lose the weight first. How much protein should I be takin a day while lifting? And no I didn't. Want to hear that...lol. but thanks. I would rather wait and do it right.

right on man,, good attitude. Youll feel much better about yoru gains if you do it the right way.

[Lift-Eat-Repeat]

Wow really? Ok then ill keep eatin right and working out and lose the weight first. How much protein should I be takin a day while lifting? And no I didn't. Want to hear that...lol. but thanks. I would rather wait and do it right.

Nice... You are a lot smarter and more mature than 99% of our newbies on this board. I was waiting to hear "Well i'm gonna do it anyway so if you don't like it get off my thread you don't have to read it anyway, also I dont know where to get these juices so if anyone knows tell me so I can ruin my body, Thanks".

[Lift-Eat-Repeat]

Oh and to answer your protein q, atleast 1 1/2 grams per pound of body weight

[fig]

1.5 - 2 grams protein per pound of body weight

[shanerik]

Omg..lol. so I need at least 290g of protein a day? I'm still going to do the test e, but I'm waiting until my body in ready for it.

[Gunns420]

Yeah bro I weigh 220 lbs I'm on 600mg of Test E a week - I eat about 300 grams of protein a day, along with a good amount of fruits & veggies - and I drink about a gallon of water a day. I'm in week 3 tryin to get up to a solid 235 (Im 5'9) by the end which will be 12 weeks. Use the clen for the last 3 or 4 weeks, or try some winstrol if you get your bodyfat in check. I love Winny to dry me out and help cut down, dont do the pills though bro. Clen is ok in pill form but Winny is murder on your liver.

[shanerik]

600mg a week? Wow. I was told 1ml (250mg) a week.

[dezza6969]

Try more like 500mg a week. After esters 250mg isn't that much more than the amount of testosterone your body already produces

[shanerik]

Anyone have anything bad to say about muscle milk? Is it cool to use them as a meal replacement?

[Ashop]

I'm going to start taking testosterone ethanate(1 ml a week) and wanted to know if I can take the lukic and gakic stack (from muscletech) along with the test ethanate? Thank you.
Erik

You can use your OTC products with your TEST E.
GOOD LUCK and tell us how they work.

[slimy]

I'm shocked that nobody sent you to the 'DIET' subforum. Those people are straight geniuses. Look at the stickie " so you want to learn to diet?". It's a video and an hour long, but it is broken up in several small parts. By far, the most beneficial thing on this entire website.

Get that diet in check and the body you want will be yours!

Good luck.

[laduem88]

I'm shocked that nobody sent you to the 'DIET' subforum. Those people are straight geniuses. Look at the stickie " so you want to learn to diet?". It's a video and an hour long, but it is broken up in several small parts. By far, the most beneficial thing on this entire website.

Get that diet in check and the body you want will be yours!

Good luck.

this

[dezza6969]

I'm shocked that nobody sent you to the 'DIET' subforum. Those people are straight geniuses. Look at the stickie " so you want to learn to diet?". It's a video and an hour long, but it is broken up in several small parts. By far, the most beneficial thing on this entire website.

Get that diet in check and the body you want will be yours!

Good luck.

He's right check out those videos well worth it

[Phate]

Try more like 500mg a week. After esters 250mg isn't that much more than the amount of testosterone your body already produces

not true, your body produces around 7mg of test/day naturally, so 49mg/wk

250mg of total test=175mg of test plus 75mg of ester, so even at 500mg/wk you are producing over 3.5x your normal about of test

Anyone have anything bad to say about muscle milk? Is it cool to use them as a meal replacement?

No, it contains too much fat, if you MUST have an RTD i would go with Myoplex Carb control(25g protein and 5g of carbs), but the proteins in those drinks(milk protein concentrate, calcium caseinate, soy protein concentrate, etc..) are inferior really, they only add a pinch of whey isolate so that they can put it on the list

I'm shocked that nobody sent you to the 'DIET' subforum. Those people are straight geniuses. Look at the stickie " so you want to learn to diet?". It's a video and an hour long, but it is broken up in several small parts. By far, the most beneficial thing on this entire website.

Get that diet in check and the body you want will be yours!

Good luck.

agreed, i think he would do well in the diet forum

[dezza6969]

Hey phate I've seen the figure quoted for males in there 20's being 7-10mg a day. Anyway I was being overzealous but I still think if ur gonna inhibit or shutdown hpta anyway why not do it with 500mg and see some good results? Hell everyones different tho. But 250mg?

[Phate]

Hey phate I've seen the figure quoted for males in there 20's being 7-10mg a day. Anyway I was being overzealous but I still think if ur gonna inhibit or shutdown hpta anyway why not do it with 500mg and see some good results? Hell everyones different tho. But 250mg?

i know a couple guys that grow very well off of lower doses, but you're right that most people grow best on a 500mg/wk cycle

[ty357]

Well I apprec. All the help and info. I mainly want to put size on. Ill worry about cutting later. I also have put my diet in check, and cardio I'm working on. So I'm still wanting to know about taking the gakic and lukis with test!!!!????

Bro your 290 and want to put on more size. you also consider yourself over weight. Dude are you serious?

[Oakleys]

Just keep working out man.

Cardio cardio cardio!

check out the diet section.

[Reaver.]

Your shocked that you have to eat 290g of protein? lol....You clearly arent ready for steroids...not to mention that 40%+ bodyfat you have aint gonna help none.

[Gunns420]

Bro your 290 and want to put on more size. you also consider yourself over weight. Dude are you serious?

yeah bro stay away from the juice until you trim up a little. Do some clen maybe T3 but youre going to blow up like a balloon. Plus, I wouldnt run any Test cycle under 500mg a week. If you're going to juice do it right, get big in a good way.

And Muscle milk is like a protein bar, not a ton of good stuff in there - I personally prefer regular milk with added protein

[shanerik]

I am serious, and only slightly overweight. I'm going to the doc to find out my b.f. %. I am new to steroids and that's why I'm here to get help. I appreciate everyones help and criticism, its what pushes me the extra mile. Ill keep eating right and doing my cardio then. Eventually do my test.