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    Test PP NPP cycle

    Ok so i am just planning ahead right now b/c i ordered some powders and want to have everything in line for when i want to start in april. Stats:

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    training for 7 years

    14% body fat

    Diet will be in check as well as training

    Previous cycle was Test C and Winstrol oral so this will be my second cycle and im looking to run a pretty good cut

    I plan i running Test PP and NPP

    Weeks 1-10 Test PP - 200mg/e3d
    Weeks 1-10 NPP - 200mg/e3d
    weeks 4-10 Anavar 80mg/d (will also run Liv 52 for prior week and threw cycle)

    HCG 250iu 3 x week through out cycle and stop week b4 pct

    PCT: Clomid 100/50/50/50
    Nolva 50/25/25/25

    Will also run clen during pct

    I have adex at hand for any mishaps. i had no side effects at all from the previous cycle.

    Let me know what your opinions.

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    I would prefer to run both EOD at least, and you might want to have some caber on hand as well.

    Otherwise, looks good, and nice screen name.

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    thanks bro, ive read that this esters half life is 4.5 days i thought three would be optimal? i have no problem with the EOD just wondering.

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    tyler durdennn have you got something for prolactin?

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    definitely pin eod

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    Definitely go EOD. (IE) 150mg EOD

    adjust dosages as necessary.

    That's going to be a sick cycle. One of my favorite. Good dosage of var. 100mg is my sweet-spot; but 80mg definitely cuts/hardens me up well..!

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    no prolactin agent currently thats why i am working everything out now. I didnt know how much of an issue would actually arise so its good to know will have it on order this week cant wait to start, EOD it will be, ive just been reading so much and id rather go the get in and get out method with the esters rather than wait 3 weeks for a pct. V-Man you are one of the only people that talks alot on the npp i cant wait to try it, does the phenyl prop have the same pain aspect as reg prop? all i read about prop is that it is painful? im hoping i can brew the tpp and npp painless for the most part.

    also with pinning EOD with these when should PCT start? would it be 2 days after last pin or would it be 4.5 as the half life says?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurdensArmy View Post
    no prolactin agent currently thats why i am working everything out now. I didnt know how much of an issue would actually arise so its good to know will have it on order this week cant wait to start, EOD it will be, ive just been reading so much and id rather go the get in and get out method with the esters rather than wait 3 weeks for a pct. V-Man you are one of the only people that talks alot on the npp i cant wait to try it, does the phenyl prop have the same pain aspect as reg prop? all i read about prop is that it is painful? im hoping i can brew the tpp and npp painless for the most part.

    also with pinning EOD with these when should PCT start? would it be 2 days after last pin or would it be 4.5 as the half life says?
    end the NPP one week before the test, then follow regular protocol with test p

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurdensArmy View Post
    no prolactin agent currently thats why i am working everything out now. I didnt know how much of an issue would actually arise so its good to know will have it on order this week cant wait to start, EOD it will be, ive just been reading so much and id rather go the get in and get out method with the esters rather than wait 3 weeks for a pct. V-Man you are one of the only people that talks alot on the npp i cant wait to try it, does the phenyl prop have the same pain aspect as reg prop? all i read about prop is that it is painful? im hoping i can brew the tpp and npp painless for the most part.

    also with pinning EOD with these when should PCT start? would it be 2 days after last pin or would it be 4.5 as the half life says?
    pct starts 3 after your last prop injection

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    thanks guys for the help this forum is the shit!! Is prolactin a huge factor in this type of cycle?

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    also im just wondering about the EOD pins, is this to just keep blood lavels stable? im just trying to understand everything about esters and how each runs and lots of people have different opinions.

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    ya you def need to do it eod at least for the least amount of sides.

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    thanks man u guys a a huge help im glad everything looks goo cant wait to see the results i will be running a log starting mid april

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    One more question, should i have the caber just in case or should i be running it at .50 mg a week in two doses of .25 mg from the beginning of the cycle? i have not been prone to gyno but this will be my first 19-nor compound

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    I personally would run it during the cycle

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    im having trouble finding caber, source has none and ive read many things about liquid caber being unstable and its not worth it, can i get away with running the adex at a higher dose if i cant find caber?

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    Ran this cycle! LOVED IT! I agree with everyone else though EOD is the way to go.

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