test? is it always the best idea?

**icepick27** · 01-27-2010, 08:10 AM

I always usded test in my cycles , iam 5"11 205lbs 9% bf I wanted to put a little more size on this summer and I was wondering if I could do maybe equpoise and winnie instead of test and somthing ,? I want to know if equpoise and other steroids affect your natural test and sperm leveles as bad as test does ? And what are some differnt cycles for a little more size and more definition thanks .

***D7M*** · 01-27-2010, 08:21 AM

I would always have test as a base. Even running a lower dose of test with the cycle.

I don't think you'll get what your after with EQ, though.

**marcus300** · 01-27-2010, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by D7M

I would always have test as a base. Even running a lower dose of test with the cycle.

I don't think you'll get what your after with EQ, though.

Agreed

**XLCanadian** · 01-27-2010, 08:36 AM

Sounds like a Test/Tren or Test/Anadrol is more what you're looking for....IMO

**icepick27** · 01-27-2010, 09:37 AM

Thanks iam just trying to put together my next cycle ,I don't know what its going to be yet ,wether it be androphen 275 and eq or 275 and tren , I don't know ? Iam stumped ,I was thinking about androl but I don't know .cause frfom what I here its toxic on the body either way iam starting in 3 monthes

***D7M*** · 01-27-2010, 09:40 AM

what's your cycle experience, and what are your goals with this next cycle?

**powerliftmike** · 01-27-2010, 10:24 AM

Running winny without test isnt too bad, but considering eq needs to be run for minimum 10-12 wks, I would not want to go that long without test. Eq and winstrol make a bad cycle for many reasons..you shouldnt be running winny for 10-12 wks because it is 17aa. And both hurt your joints badly, at least my experience. The combination might be really bad and put you at risk for tendon rupture.

**icepick27** · 01-29-2010, 11:54 AM

cool thanks ,these are just some idea's i just wanted to get some feed back thanks

**icepick27** · 01-29-2010, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by D7M

what's your cycle experience, and what are your goals with this next cycle?

this would be my 3rd AAS cycle ,and i have been running hgh for almost a year. i just leaned out i want to put on more lean muscle mass

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 01-29-2010, 12:12 PM

why dont you want to run test?

**icepick27** · 02-06-2010, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg

why dont you want to run test?

i do want to run test ,its the best iam just worried about being shut down again .then it messing with my sperm count .cause the first time i ran a cycle i didnt know much and stayed on to long and got great results but messed my shit up ,then it took a while to get it all back ,so now i have been just running hgh by itself and jan.1i started anavar and put 6lbs on .. but i still want to run a test and tren cycle or somthing before the summer